Defanging?

[ShyDragoness]

I think the daddy long legs people are referring to when they say this are the cellar spiders and not the harvestman that many of us grew up calling daddy long legs. They are spiders and they are venomous but they certainly are not dangerous.

Daddy long legs = cellar spider

Daddy long legs = harvestman

Apparently some people even call crane flies daddy long legs

Regardless, they certainly are not dangerous no matter which one you are referring to.

I grew up calling crane flies and cellar spiders daddy long legs! Now its sort of just a nick name~ I do find it funny tho when people try to tell me daddy long legs are the most "poisonous" spider in the world hahaha.

My cats are front declawed. One ruined couch was enough.

I personally would not put the quality of my pets life over a stationary object.

 

[sschind]

I grew up calling crane flies and cellar spiders daddy long legs! Now its sort of just a nick name~ I do find it funny tho when people try to tell me daddy long legs are the most "poisonous" spider in the world hahaha.

To be honest I have almost given up correcting people on the whole venomous vs poisonous thing. When I started doing my shows I used to go into a whole spiel about the differences and now when I am talking about coral snakes and I ask what is a very important fact about coral snakes and someone says they are poisonous I simply say Coral snakes are venomous. If I'm dealing with middle school kids I may go into it a bit more but for younger ones I just make the correction and leave it at that. I've seen articles and papers by some pretty well know and respected people in the biological field and the herp hobby who use the terms interchangeably and to be honest everyone knows what they mean so I've started to let it slide.

Now if a kid says they are venomous I may may spend an extra minute or so just to acknowledge that they have in fact used the correct term. I think they deserve some sort of recognition.

As I heard one conversation. A guy said that Cobras were poisonous. Someone corrected him saying technically cobras are venomous to which the first person replied poisonous, venomous who cares, if you get bit by one technically you are going to die.

 

[AmberDawnDays]

I've pretty much come to the understanding that when you have cats (much like kids I'm sure), you don't have nice things anymore. The sooner you come to accept that, the easier life becomes

And I wouldn't have it any other way.

Although my kids are older now and not as destructive and I swear my cats aren't little maniacs destroying everything in their wake. They have done their fair share of destructive business though, that's for sure.

I spent 20 minutes yesterday attempting to convince someone thst "daddy long legs are not the most venomous spider in the world"

They're not spiders, not venomous, and not dangerous.

I'm almost ashamed to admit this, but I only recently learned that daddy long legs aren't spiders. It was maybe 4 months ago and I was having a conversation with a guy at work and somehow we got to talking about daddy long legs and he said they weren't spiders. I was certain that they were so we bet each other a coke and googled it. I lost the bet and bought him a coke. True story.

 

[JoshDM020]

I think the daddy long legs people are referring to when they say this are the cellar spiders and not the harvestman that many of us grew up calling daddy long legs. They are spiders and they are venomous but they certainly are not dangerous.

Daddy long legs = cellar spider

Daddy long legs = harvestman

Apparently some people even call crane flies daddy long legs

Regardless, they certainly are not dangerous no matter which one you are referring to.

In order of the pictures, i grew up and will probably always call those; water/cellar spiders (i guess water because of damp environments? Common in bathrooms around here. Or something almost identical), Grandaddy longlegs, and mosquito hawks.

 

[sasker]

To each their own, but from my understanding declawing cats is like chopping off the tips of your fingers..

I grew up in the Netherlands and declawing is definitely not done. I believe it is even illegal and I was baffled to find out that it is apparently common practice in the US and not even something that at least raises some eyebrows. We used to have cats (three of them) and they were trained not to scratch the furniture. Cats are not impossible to train.

Indeed, to each their own. Some people may find it strange that we cork our dogs until they are housebroken.

EDIT: the cork thing is a joke. We did not actually plug up the rear end of any of our pets!

 

[The Grym Reaper]

Just remember that there are no stupid questions - only stupid people. I must say that in some cases I cannot resist the urge to give ridiculous answers to ridiculous questions. Of course I set matters straight after a while. Keeping tarantulas already has a bad reputation without my help.

1. Do they still have venom?
They are not only venomous, they are poisonous as well. Everything dies that comes in contact with them.

2. Are they all in the same enclosure?
Yes, one big happy family. They hunt in packs, too.

3. Have I been bitten?
Are you kidding? Of course not! I wouldn't be standing here talking to you if I had.

4. Do I keep them locked away from my children?
Yes. Spiders eat anything from insects to small little children.

5. What would happen if I was bitten?
I would slowly liquefy until there would only be an empty husk of my body left.

6. What would happen if one got loose?
By now you should realise that all hell would break loose.

Q: Aren't you afraid they'll get out and kill you?
A: I can not be killed by conventional means.

Q: Why don't you just get a dog?
A: Because dogs are almost as annoying as humans.

If I wanted a disloyal, whiny, hyperactive, food-stealing creature that requires constant attention then I'd get a girlfriend

Q: Why do you have them?
A: Because I like them, I find them fascinating and they don't ask me stupid questions.

Q: How do you even sleep in the same room as them?
A: With great difficulty (but that's because I have Asperger Syndrome and if I somehow actually manage to get to sleep in the first place I get woken up by the slightest bloody noise, not because I have a room full of eight legged murder tanks).

Q: Can you teach them tricks?
A: Yes, I'm currently teaching them astral projection and alchemy in between close-quarter weapons training.

Q: Won't they all make babies and infest your house?
A: Did your mum/dad not have "the talk" with you? That's not how it works.

Q: What will you do with them when you get tired of them?
A: Release them all into the house of the last person to ask me a stupid question and film the results.

Q: Don't they have really short life spans though? What's the point in buying something that only lives a short while?
A: Nope, they can live for decades. My B. albopilosum and B. hamorii will both probably outlive your dog, and the dog that you inevitably get to replace that dog, and you if you continue to ask me stupid questions.

 

[sasker]

My B. albopilosum and B. hamorii will both probably outlive your dog

...and you if you keep asking these silly questions, because I will sic my tarantulas on you.

 

[spotropaicsav]

I grew up in the Netherlands and declawing is definitely not done. I believe it is even illegal and I was baffled to find out that it is apparently common practice in the US and not even something that at least raises some eyebrows. We used to have cats (three of them) and they were trained not to scratch the furniture. Cats are not impossible to train.

Indeed, to each their own. Some people may find it strange that we cork our dogs until they are housebroken.

Our cats are not declawed, and like you we train them not to scratch furniture. The declawed cats at the local shelter are few, and considered " special needs" because they have fewer defenses. I'm in CA, hopefully it is becoming a less commonly performed procedure.

What did you mean "cork our dogs until housebroken" crate?

 

[The Grym Reaper]

Cats are not impossible to train.

It's frightening to realise how many people seem to be unaware of that and subsequently spout nonsense like "hurr durr, but they climb all over kitchen worktops after digging through their litter box" or "but they climb on the shelves and break things or shred the curtains/furniture".

Our cat knew from a young age that the kitchen worktops were out of bounds, she'd sit patiently by your feet any time you were doing anything in the kitchen, she also knew that she wasn't allowed to use the furniture/curtains as a scratching post or to climb all over the shelves. it's not difficult to train them, most people just don't bother.

 

[Andrea82]

Our cats are not declawed, and like you we train them not to scratch furniture. The declawed cats at the local shelter are few, and considered " special needs" because they have fewer defenses. I'm in CA, hopefully it is becoming a less commonly performed procedure.

What did you mean "cork our dogs until housebroken" crate?

I thinkthink @sasker made a joke
At least, i hope so
If not, I'm from the Netherlands as well and never seen corked up dogs.

I thougt at first that @Rittdk01 was being sarcastic, but I guess not.
Declawing a cat is disgusting. There is no merit in it for the cat, impairs its health and defenses, and it's illegal here. If you want your 3000$ leather couch in spotless condition, don't get free ranging pets. Better even, cover yourself in fleece and declaw yourself while you're at it.
Whoever thought that idea up is not right in the head. It is just as ridiculous as defanging a theraphosid.

 

[spotropaicsav]

I thinkthink @sasker made a joke
At least, i hope so
If not, I'm from the Netherlands as well and never seen corked up dogs.

Thanks my eyes are tired

@Andrea82 I can't stop laughing about corked up dogs and the images it conjures up

 

[mconnachan]

I'm almost ashamed to admit this, but I only recently learned that daddy long legs aren't spiders. It was maybe 4 months ago and I was having a conversation with a guy at work and somehow we got to talking about daddy long legs and he said they weren't spiders. I was certain that they were so we bet each other a coke and googled it. I lost the bet and bought him a coke. True story.

If you google Opiliones you will find they are in fact arachnids, you should have won that bet, let's hope google doesn't cost you any more cokes....lol

 

[Ungoliant]

I'm almost ashamed to admit this, but I only recently learned that daddy long legs aren't spiders.

If you google Opiliones you will find they are in fact arachnids, you should have won that bet

Not all arachnids are spiders. (Spiders belong to the order Araneae; harvestmen belong to the order Opiliones.)

 

[user 666]

close-quarter weapons training

LOL

 

[sasker]

What did you mean "cork our dogs until housebroken" crate?

I thinkthink @sasker made a joke

I was indeed joking. The idea of me molesting the dog with a champagne cork to prevent getting excrement on the carpet. The idea, haha! What do you take me for? We didn't even have a dog. But I will edit my message, just in case

The declawed cats at the local shelter are few

I am glad to hear that declawing is not so very common. To me, it seemed just as cruel as the outlandish practice of burning away a part of a parrot's wing to prevent them from flying away.

 

[Rittdk01]

I personally would not put the quality of my pets life over a stationary object.

Lol I like the cat enough I still have him after ruining a super expensive couch. And I'm sure the cat would consider neutering a lot worse than declawing. Either declaw to save my house or leave at the pound to most likely be put to sleep.....

 

[cold blood]

Q: Why don't you just get a dog?
A: Because dogs are almost as annoying as humans.

If I wanted a disloyal, whiny, hyperactive, food-stealing creature that requires constant attention then I'd get a girlfriend

1. There is no animal easier to train on the planet...humans included.

2. They're also the most loyal.

3. if they're stealing food, that's on the owner, because see #1.

4. Dogs require a ton of sleep, not to mention millions of dogs are left at home alone without issue...daily...so your gf (should you ever get one) will actually require more attention over time.

Doesn't sound like you have a strong grasp on dogs at all...hehe.

Not all arachnids are spiders. (Spiders belong to the order Araneae; harvestmen belong to the order Opiliones.)

Right...both are arachnids...neither is a spider.

prehistoric

• cold blood
• Jun 15, 2017
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yep, theyre every bit as cool and interesting as you think.

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• cold blood
• May 18, 2017

Uronoctus sp.

The only thing I grew up calling daddy long legs were daddy long legs...I didn't figure out that others were referring to cellar spiders most of the time...I have always corrected people on that.....I actually find it funny, because a cellar spider is nothing at all like a daddy long legs....aside from, well, long legs.

 

[ShyDragoness]

Lol I like the cat enough I still have him after ruining a super expensive couch. And I'm sure the cat would consider neutering a lot worse than declawing. Either declaw to save my house or leave at the pound to most likely be put to sleep.....

Putting the value of the cats life over a stationary object based on worth, while I dont agree with neutering completely, the cat would not be in pain for the rest of its life, so perhaps given the choice it would rather be neutered. Saying that, I cannot stop you from doing what you want to your cat, though I wonder when it becomes animal cruelty or if it already has. Good luck to your fluffy friend.

 

[sasker]

Either declaw to save my house or leave at the pound to most likely be put to sleep.....

Although I appreciate the frustration after a ruined couch, I still think amputating the digits of your cat is, well, extreme. I don't doubt that you love your pet, but I think it would be better to just train your pet.

 

[mconnachan]

Lol I like the cat enough I still have him after ruining a super expensive couch. And I'm sure the cat would consider neutering a lot worse than declawing. Either declaw to save my house or leave at the pound to most likely be put to sleep.....

Why get a cat if you value such inanimate objects with some passion, enough to have your cat
de-clawed, that's just sad, what a waste of a fine, feline friend, and you would have left it at the pound to be put to sleep, err.........