Deadly Species?

[G. Carnell]

" Originally posted by danread
. It is a shame, i would like to keep latrodectus species, but the license over here would cost far far more than the cost of the animal, its caging and all of the feeding requirements for the rest of its life! "




if you get the license, i can bring some (L.tredecimguttatus) back from the medeterranean for a cheap price (£7+posting)

the license costs alot yes, but think of all the other cool stuff you can get...

 

[Crotalus]

Originally posted by cotton
latrodectus and loxosceles make very interesting and quite non-aggressive captives. people just get freaked out, by all the media and urban legend behind these species. Like Wade said most of us here in the states have widows all around our houses, especially if you live in the southern regions. As for venomous snakes... I agree with my herpetologist mentor of many years.... DONT!. If you arent a pro or you are just a complete moron then you have no biz dealing with potential death. I think it casts a bad light on everyone in the herp trade when someone gets tagged, it just adds fuel to the anti-reptile fire.

Im not a pro or a moran but I think I know what im doing when it comes to ven snakes. So why shouldnt I enjoy my hobby...
Thats plain bs if you ask me. As for bites, they can happen even to a pro.

/Lelle

 

[danread]

Hi George,

Thanks! I'll have a look into it, i know the cost of a dwa license is different in every area, so it might not be to bad where i am.

Cheers,

Dan.

 

[Lopez]

Can anyone apply for a licence to keep potential dangerous species and as long as the applicant follows the rules regarding housing etc he can get permit? Do they check if this person is knowledgable enough to keep these kind of animals in the first place?

Note: I dont knock on you. Im just curious how that system of licencing works.

/Lelle

Hi Lelle

As Richard has said, yes anybody can actually apply for the DWA. I believe exotic shops have to have them whether they sell DWA or not.
Basically, after applying a local Council inspector will come around and check your premises and talk to you. Basically they want to see locked tanks or at the very least a locked secure cabinet.
Unfortunately, the inspectors often have absolutely no idea what to look for or what they are talking about, meaning that many councils who are lacking an expert will just refuse your application. This is particularly the case in rural areas like where I live.
In addition to this there is the high cost (varies from county to county) and the fact that every new DWA you get has to be declared to the council again (ie if you had one P.nigriventer drop a sac you would be legally obliged to declare every spiderling!)

The thinking behind it is sound but in practice it isn't going to work. If I wanted to keep my favourite species of spider (Phoneutria) then I think I'm mature and sensible enough to provide secure housing for it without needing a fat guy with a clipboard to come round and take £400 a year out of my wallet for the privelage....

 

[Crotalus]

Hi Lelle

As Richard has said, yes anybody can actually apply for the DWA. I believe exotic shops have to have them whether they sell DWA or not.
Basically, after applying a local Council inspector will come around and check your premises and talk to you. Basically they want to see locked tanks or at the very least a locked secure cabinet.
Unfortunately, the inspectors often have absolutely no idea what to look for or what they are talking about, meaning that many councils who are lacking an expert will just refuse your application. This is particularly the case in rural areas like where I live.
In addition to this there is the high cost (varies from county to county) and the fact that every new DWA you get has to be declared to the council again (ie if you had one P.nigriventer drop a sac you would be legally obliged to declare every spiderling!)

The thinking behind it is sound but in practice it isn't going to work. If I wanted to keep my favourite species of spider (Phoneutria) then I think I'm mature and sensible enough to provide secure housing for it without needing a fat guy with a clipboard to come round and take £400 a year out of my wallet for the privelage....

The license (or whatever i should call it) for ven snakes here works in a similar fashion. Its not applied to the whole country, every region have their own laws (which they would loose if one took it to court). Doesnt effect any arachnid whatsoever.

/Lelle

 

[Lopez]

The license (or whatever i should call it) for ven snakes here works in a similar fashion. Its not applied to the whole country, every region have their own laws (which they would loose if one took it to court). Doesnt effect any arachnid whatsoever.

/Lelle

Off the top of my head, it applies to all Phoneutria, Latrodectus, Atrax and a few others in this country