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fuzzyavics72

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I've had thousands of avicularia inculding eggsacs and never had any avicularia die from avicularia death syndrome. There's so many reasons why I think this avicularia died... mostly due to NOT asking questions or doing research, it's sad that animals die due to people's ignorance......
 

dredrickt

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Incase this does pass, would it be better for me to get a rose hair or obt? I like the obt and rose hair.
Buy the book, don't buy another tarantula you aren't properly educated on to care for, especially an OBT, one of those would tear you up.

One you've read the book and have a confident grasp you understand the needs of caring for a T, get a Grammastola or Brachypelma species. From there you can branch out into slightly more daring and difficult to keep species.

If you do buy the book and read it, then you can say you learned from this experience and it will make you an immensely better keeper. Don't let this discourage you, but don't dive headfirst back into something you don't understand either. I can't stress that last part enough.
 

Rayenicole

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Incase this does pass, would it be better for me to get a rose hair or obt? I like the obt and rose hair.
I hope that your Avic makes it, I had a P. irminia pass away for no discernible reason. Unfortunately it happens sometimes :(.

IMO G. rosea is a relatively boring tarantula but they do teach patience. It will be slow growing, usually slow moving, and sometimes fast for months. Pterinochilus murinus in my experience is defensive and fast, and they have potent venom. Mine often
hide away but on occasion they do sit out. If you have not looked into them I recommend checking out Acanthoscurria geniculata. Mine are excellent for display, always out. In my opinion they're attractive as well. They can be quick and are very voracious eaters and they grow pretty quickly. Good luck!

*EDIT* I have to support the purchase of the Tarantula Keepers Guide. It is invaluable.
 

ratluvr76

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Wubong, I'm so so sorry if you're little guy doesn't make it. Take all the good advice you get on how to care for the crickets between feedings, read up on everything you can find on whatever species you do wind up getting to replace her. And don't take the judgemental comments too hard. LEARN from this experience. No one is perfect and no one has ever made no mistakes when it comes to caring for animals, 4 legged, 8 legged or no legged.

Everyone else telling this young person that he is ignorant etc. don't be so hard on him. He is young! You can crush a budding enthusiast by being so hard on someone new to a hobby like this. You can foster greater respect for the hobby and the animals in it by helping him learn how to learn. imho.

That being said; Wubong, I do think you should purchase the book, or at least look for it in your local library. If they don't have it, you can ask them to get it in some libraries. Good luck!! I hope you're little spidey makes it through this!
 

titanT

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Incase this does pass, would it be better for me to get a rose hair or obt? I like the obt and rose hair.
lol, you feed your T 30 crickets and wonder why it has a stuffed arse and then talking about a new T to replace it , not to mention an obt, though mine is a rare exception and is my most docile T, this isn't normally the case and if my exotic certificates and 2 animal management diplomas has tought me anything responsible pet ownership is a must...your lacking it. Get a hamster instead.... maybe thats abit harsh... but get more knowledge before getting another T.
 
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titanT

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Cool. Sorry feel bad now..lol atleast you made an effort, ill give you that. Cant be nice everyone giving you a hard time. It s a good book,the best in my opinion, though it still leaves more questions than answers in alot of refereces. Got mine next to me now....love it..ha, its an interesting book, got through mine in 2 days. Hope yor T's alright, hows it doing?? Ive had a rose hair and like i said before got an OBT but its deffiently an advanced T, even with a jump up to a medium like an LP, i wouldn't jump up to an OBT, which im being a hipacrit since thats exactly what i did, i got lucky with the most chilled out OBT youve ever seen, i can touch it with the twezers and pull out all of its web while its sat there, to get a molt out of the coconut and pull the spider out its not bothered.lol though people say rose hairs are good. Ill never get one again, there boring in my opinion, bad eaters fasting for months, which i think theres a reference too in the book your reading about being a bad starter T, and suffer from rosie rock syndrome. Lol if you read all that book and feel confident an LP is a great medium level T. Or a cyclosternum fasiatum if you want a semi-heavy webber like the OBT if thats why you wanted one for, though OBT's do web abit more, CF are fast so you have to be comfortabe with a turbo-T lol. Got mine aweek ago so hit us up if you get one. Green bottle blue is an even a heavier webber than c.faciatum. But im not your mother so you do what you want.lol let us no how your spider is? Inabit
 
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Wubong

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Pretty unfortunate but it died (I burried it because I felt bad) and while i'm reading this book i'm learning a lot that I didn't know so next T I get I will be able to care for way better. And I do like spiders that web heavily

---------- Post added 08-03-2014 at 04:54 PM ----------

(In reply to fuzzyavics) That's a bit harsh don't you think? And in fact I asked a lot of questions. This kinda just hit me because the next day it was on it's side, and what did I do? I came onto this website and asked for help. So please don't be so ignorant to call me ignorant when you don't have a clue what you are talking about. I also did some research.
 

ratluvr76

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So sorry your tarantula died. I'm happy you got a copy of tkg. Now you will have the knowledge and tools you need to really enjoy the hobby responsibly. :)
 

titanT

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Sorry to hear it died man:o_O: glad your enjoying the book though, got to the reference about a rose hair being a bad starter T yet? Yeah if your into heavy webbers, like i said before cyclosternum fasciatum....but there fast, decent webbing around there borrows, but all have different personality's so you never no, nice colours too, tiger stripes, the obt i would forget for now untill you have more experience, im still learning myself, theres the green bottleblue which is an even heavier webber, one of the most colourfull tarantulas, the only trouble is they can have a bad temperment guarding there borrows, all webbers do usually (not my OBT) lol, which is why there normally in the medium to advanced category. But them 2 arn't to bad now youve read that book...............almost, and confident......almost lol you should be fine, just a few crickets a week will do most T's but the 3 biggest: the LP, the gallioth and one more. The reference is in the book your reading. You should check those 2 webbers out on youtube, and sorry about having a go at you before and sorry about your T, let us no what you plan to get next..:biggrin:
 
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cold blood

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just a few crickets a week will do most T's but the 3 biggest T's, the LP, the gallioth and one more.

There's a LOT more than 3 big t's with big appetites capable of large or many more meals per week. Acanthoscurria genus (many reaching 8"), Phormictipus genus (8" range), pamphobeteous genus (these t's are all 7-9+") as well as the entire lasiodora (klugi is the biggest in the genus when weight is considered btw)and theraposa genus you mentioned to name but a few groups of large t's with large appetites and I didn't even leave S. America yet....there's actually lots of 8+ inch species, most if not all require big and/or frequent meals.

Op, sorry to hear it passed, may you take what you have learned since and have better luck with your future spiders.
 

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titanT

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There's a LOT more than 3 big t's with big appetites capable of large or many more meals per week. Acanthoscurria genus (many reaching 8"), Phormictipus genus (8" range), pamphobeteous genus (these t's are all 7-9+") as well as the entire lasiodora (klugi is the biggest in the genus when weight is considered btw)and theraposa genus you mentioned to name but a few groups of large t's with large appetites and I didn't even leave S. America yet....there's actually lots of 8+ inch species, most if not all require big and/or frequent meals.

Op, sorry to hear it passed, may you take what you have learned since and have better luck with your future spiders.
when i said a few crickets, it was a figure of speech...5...6...7 crickets. Sorry op for arguing on your thread, do you know what T you want next?
 

Spidergrrl

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Pretty unfortunate but it died (I burried it because I felt bad) and while i'm reading this book i'm learning a lot that I didn't know so next T I get I will be able to care for way better. And I do like spiders that web heavily
Hi Wubong,

I'm sorry about your spider. My first spider was an Aphonopelma moderatum. I really loved that spider. About four months after I purchased her, she went through a bad molt. I panicked and my attempts to help her probably just made things worse. I almost gave up Tarantulas at that point as I felt so bad and guilty. Then I decided the right course of action was to become better educated. I had previously bought a copy of the TKG but now I really began to study it. I decided to start with some slings. That was a little over a year ago. I now have 18 Ts. Most of them I've had since they were only about a quarter inch in size. They are all now healthy juvenile Ts and I didn't lose any of them. I even had a juvenile Lasiodora klugi go through a bad molt in which it became very crippled and lost multiple legs. It was barely mobile. I kept it in ICU and carefully monitored feeding it newly killed crickets. I was sure I was going to lose it. Two weeks ago it molted again and while it it's still missing a couple of legs, it is now quite mobile and able to take live food on its own with no problem. I am confident it will survive.

It sounds like you are doing the right thing by taking this as an opportunity to learn and become a better spider keeper.

Best wishes,

Spidergrrl
 
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