Damon medius baby communal

[Table]

Sorry about location, Tailless sweep scorpion screamed scorpion to me


I was thinking about getting this sweet deal I saw in the classifieds.
Its for 3 Caribena versicolors .75" , and 3 Damon medius .75".
I have no expirence with tailess swpp scorpions, and would love to get some. While doing reasurch i got some mixed ansers if i can keep these youg ones communialy. Tarantula commonals are a no no for me and i wouldnt want to endanger any of these scorpians eather. Im just not sure what id do with three large enclosures when there full grown.

Any input is apprecated, im just not about getting an animal without compleatly understanding the limitations first. iv found plenty of info on there care thow.

 

[Sambro]

If you feel that you don't have the room to keep animals, I wouldn't suggest it.

I have around 24 Slings, and wouldn't have brought any if I knew I didn't have the space to house them all in adult enclosures. It's worth considering every aspect from start to end and planning for the whole time they're in your care.

I'm not sure about Scorpions, so someone else may need to chime in.

 

[Table]

I have around 24 Slings, and wouldn't have brought any if I knew I didn't have the space to house them all in adult enclosures. It's worth considering every aspect from start to end and planning for the whole time they're in your care.

I know thats why im here asking about it.
**i havnt boght anything yet**

 

[Sambro]

I know thats why im here asking about it.
**i havnt boght anything yet**

If you have room though, definitely grab it! I know that Damon medius has quite the leg span, so I can understand the large enclosures required. I'm unaware of them keeping communally, and from my understanding, they can be found in the wild living communally. Let's hope someone that has experience keeping the D.Medius without any issues.

Best of luck! Would love the Veri's myself. Only have 2 Arboreals at the moment! One NW and one OW

 

[Table]

I know that Damon medius has quite the leg span, so I can understand the large enclosures required.

when they wolt they need room to strech their legs fully, so yea some big enclosures.

 

[Matts inverts]

I think they are communal but as adults. Just to be safe. I would separate the babies if you get them. That way you can make sure each one is all good and no risk of hurting each other or one not getting food.

 

[Table]

If I where to house them communally as adults, it would be in a really Bing enclosure with several cork flats and tubes. In my head it looks super cool, but I don't want to move forward with anything till I know it won't be a disaster. I'm an impulsive person in general and I don't want this is be a impulse buy I'll regret later.

 

[Matts inverts]

I know it’s what you mean. I got a couple animals that I wasn’t planning on and having to build an enclosure or tank super quick. Luckily. I have been able to get the supplies and fix my tanks and make naturalistic

 

[Albireo Wulfbooper]

"tailless whip scorpion", aka "whip spider" aka their proper name: amblypygi. Not scorpions, not spiders. Just to clear up any confusion.

In general I don't recommend keeping any predatory species communally until you have a bit of experience under your belt, and even then only if you are willing to risk losing some to cannibalism. Truly communal predators are relatively rare, though many will tolerate others nearby IF they have enough space and food and hiding places. Since you are new to amblypygi, you don't yet know what "enough" is, and you don't yet know how to care for these animals. Trying to keep them communally just adds another layer of complexity to that. While Damon medius and some other predatory species can be found living clustered in a relatively small area in nature, this is NOT the same as keeping them communally in a restricted space where escape is not possible.

Edit: This is not to say that they can't be successfully kept communally in captivity, just that you will likely have more success and healthier animals if you do not attempt this as a new, inexperienced keeper.

 

[aphono]

As someone who has bred D. medius.... NO do not keep the babies communally! This species has cannibalistic tendencies as soon as they leave the mother. It's mainly when the clutch mates start to molt when the cannibalism really shows up. They molt generally in snyc but there's always a few that either start earlier or later than the others. At the first few cycles, the early and later molts are more vulnerable but later on, the latter to molt become the vulnerable ones. They get preyed on literally mid-molt.

Several molts later, they start being aggressive and hostile towards each other. Posturing and intimidation at first but if not separated by then, they graduate to ramping that up a bit to making limb bits disappear.

Mature males are extremely intolerant of each other. Would not try to place two males together, no matter how big the enclosure. It's more open ended with females, some seem to tolerate each other okay- still, don't be terribly surprised if something happens. I do have some adult females that are very "saucy" and will try to fight anything, including adult males much bigger than her. Would never try communal set ups with such characters, not even as a single pair with a male.

 

[Vmaximus]

As someone who has bred D. medius.... NO do not keep the babies communally! This species has cannibalistic tendencies as soon as they leave the mother. It's mainly when the clutch mates start to molt when the cannibalism really shows up. They molt generally in snyc but there's always a few that either start earlier or later than the others. At the first few cycles, the early and later molts are more vulnerable but later on, the latter to molt become the vulnerable ones. They get preyed on literally mid-molt.

Several molts later, they start being aggressive and hostile towards each other. Posturing and intimidation at first but if not separated by then, they graduate to ramping that up a bit to making limb bits disappear.

Mature males are extremely intolerant of each other. Would not try to place two males together, no matter how big the enclosure. It's more open ended with females, some seem to tolerate each other okay- still, don't be terribly surprised if something happens. I do have some adult females that are very "saucy" and will try to fight anything, including adult males much bigger than her. Would never try communal set ups with such characters, not even as a single pair with a male.

Wow, thank you for sharing this information! I will need to get several setups to raise the babies. Natural selection may be in order here also. I can imagine tens or hundreds are hatched. I am still willing to take the chance. Are you still breeding? Or, would you be willing to part with a pair?

 

[aphono]

Wow, thank you for sharing this information! I will need to get several setups to raise the babies. Natural selection may be in order here also. I can imagine tens or hundreds are hatched. I am still willing to take the chance. Are you still breeding? Or, would you be willing to part with a pair?

Happy to help. It's not difficult to house them individually while small. Regular tall deli cups would work for a good while, if they're selling early instars. The gallon size food storage containers- the cheap tall narrow ones with the screw lids at Walmart etc or if you can find plastic cereal boxes with clear visibility will also work either right away or if they need upgrade from deli containers. I just put a single piece of styrofoam, cork bark or cork tile and lean it in there. Done. Make sure the piece is long enough it reaches just under the lid though, to give them the "height". Also be aware this species needs high humidity... make the substrate(don't need much, adding a lot just wastes vertical space for them) "extremely moist" or even a little flooded to help with that. If the humidity is evaporating too fast(having to mist more than three times a week, say..) cover up some of the ventilation holes- unlike tarantulas, they don't need to be well ventilated, in fact that can hurt the high humidity loving species.

Yep, still breeding them. Hope to establish CB populations for the hobby. Kept some of my first CB offspring so I could offer CB babies from CB parents.. so that's where I am right now, nothing available until the next hatches hopefully later this year.

Don't want too much "natural selection" happening in the tanks, ha! I kind of wonder if most of the early aggressors were males.. a bit unfair to the females & don't know if that would skew the survivors towards heavy male ratios if thats the case.

 

[Table]

Thanks for all the input, I'm still getting them. They will be kept separately, Thanks for all the great responses.

 

[aphono]

Thanks for all the input, I'm still getting them. They will be kept separately, Thanks for all the great responses.

Great- good luck with them!

p.s. honestly, do keep them on the end of wetter than drier. They're definitely a high humidity loving species.

 

[Vmaximus]

Happy to help. It's not difficult to house them individually while small. Regular tall deli cups would work for a good while, if they're selling early instars. The gallon size food storage containers- the cheap tall narrow ones with the screw lids at Walmart etc or if you can find plastic cereal boxes with clear visibility will also work either right away or if they need upgrade from deli containers. I just put a single piece of styrofoam, cork bark or cork tile and lean it in there. Done. Make sure the piece is long enough it reaches just under the lid though, to give them the "height". Also be aware this species needs high humidity... make the substrate(don't need much, adding a lot just wastes vertical space for them) "extremely moist" or even a little flooded to help with that. If the humidity is evaporating too fast(having to mist more than three times a week, say..) cover up some of the ventilation holes- unlike tarantulas, they don't need to be well ventilated, in fact that can hurt the high humidity loving species.

Yep, still breeding them. Hope to establish CB populations for the hobby. Kept some of my first CB offspring so I could offer CB babies from CB parents.. so that's where I am right now, nothing available until the next hatches hopefully later this year.

Don't want too much "natural selection" happening in the tanks, ha! I kind of wonder if most of the early aggressors were males.. a bit unfair to the females & don't know if that would skew the survivors towards heavy male ratios if thats the case.

Very well, I can start gathering supplies you suggested, and I can wait to see what you will have bred later in the year. Please keep me in mind! TIA