Cyriopagopus / haplopelma lividum

[HadesZ]

So I've been out of the arachnid scene for some time. Recently decided to get back into it and purchased some of my favorite starters - versicolor and a b. Smithi

I want to get a cobalt blue now, but I'm running into an issue finding a captive bred one. I found one in a local pet store but after doing some research on the web I came across a possible concern of mine with buying from the petstore (other than the normal pet store concerns) I saw that the Singapore blue looks an awfully lot like lividum, and I also saw two different cobalt blues online as well, and im not sure if wiki has bad info or if there are really two lividums? I'm seeing info for the genusCyriopagopus and Haplopelma. Are there two separate lividums?

And is there an easy way to tell the difference between a cobalt blue and a Singapore blue?

Any help here would be much appreciated!

 

[BobBarley]

Lol I'm sure someone will tell you in a second but they are the same spider! Cyriopagopus is the new name for the genus!

Edit: Here's a link! http://arachnoboards.com/threads/ph...mpropelma-haplopelma-and-cyriopagopus.279412/

Welcome back!

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Lol I'm sure someone will tell you in a second but they are the same spider! Cyriopagopus is the new name for the genus!

Yeah, right... but! Haplopelma lividum was better, but they aren't the same.
One is arboreal, one is a burrower.

Man there's IMO too confusion. So now Haplopelma lividum is Cyriopagopus lividum... but is a (obligate) burrower. While the "Singapore Blue", Lampropelma violaceopes, is arboreal.
Stop changing things & names lol

 

[BobBarley]

Yeah, right... but! Haplopelma lividum was better, but they aren't the same.
One is arboreal, one is a burrower.

Lol, yeah Haplopelma does have a ring to it!

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Lol, yeah Haplopelma does have a ring to it!

Ah ah, i don't understand sometimes all of this taxonomy or not, mess.
Those are different Theraphosidae, save for their Asian origin and similar blue colours. But differents
I can't understand T's "Professors" lol

 

[BobBarley]

Ah ah, i don't understand sometimes all of this, taxonomy or not, mess.

Lol, me neither! Pick a name and stay with it lol!

 

[Chris LXXIX]

To OP.

Here in Europe they (sellers/breeders) can throw at you Haplopelma lividum. Those were "superstars" during the "Blue T's" rapture days of long years ago, along with Monocentropus balfouri, and others like Poecilotheria metallica etc
Blah fashion

Lol, me neither! Pick a name and stay with it lol!

That's the truth man
Like genus Ephebopus, as Storm76 said once, a parking one. Lol

 

[HadesZ]

OK, I can't tell if some of u are making jokes with each other now or not! Lol!

So Haplopelma and Cyriopagopus lividum are the same species, its just that the species has had its genus revised?

Any clarification on the Singapore blue? How can I tell the difference?

 

[Biollantefan54]

From what I heard, C. lividum will probably be changed back to Haplopelma.

 

[BobBarley]

OK, I can't tell if some of u are making jokes with each other now or not! Lol!

So Haplopelma and Cyriopagopus lividum are the same species, its just that the species has had its genus revised?

Any clarification on the Singapore blue? How can I tell the difference?

LOL
Yes, Haplopelma is the old name for Cyriopagopus.

The Singapore blue (Omothymus/Lampropelma violaceopes) is an arboreal and the Cobalt blue (C. lividum) is an obligate burrower.

 

[BobBarley]

From what I heard, C. lividum will probably be changed back to Haplopelma.

......

 

[HadesZ]

LOL
Yes, Haplopelma is the old name for Cyriopagopus.

The Singapore blue (Omothymus/Lampropelma violaceopes) is an arboreal and the Cobalt blue (C. lividum) is an obligate burrower.

K thanks for the clarification! Is there any physical way to distinguish lividum from Singapore? Or physically are they identical?

 

[Chris LXXIX]

OK, I can't tell if some of u are making jokes with each other now or not! Lol!

So Haplopelma and Cyriopagopus lividum are the same species, its just that the species has had its genus revised?

Any clarification on the Singapore blue? How can I tell the difference?

I love to joke. I love jokes, but i never joke when it comes to Theraphosidae, man, unless i state that prior.
Seems that, thanks to some T's Professor, now Haplopelma lividum, a burrower one (btw a total different T from a "Singapore Blue") is called Cyriopagopus lividum.
But they are different. As i've said, one... is a burrower. One is arboreal.

 

[BobBarley]

i never joke when it comes to Theraphosidae, man

Hmmmmm...

 

[Bugmom]

violaceopes is going to have the wider pads on the feet, like all arboreals do, and it'll have longer, thinner legs than the lividum.

 

[Chris11]

I refuse to edit my list of animals in my profile for at least a couple months...

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Hmmmmm...

Well, i am a Theraphosidae registered sex offender, i admit that (SpiderWatch, Prrrt!, lol) but still, i'm trying at my best to redeem myself, lol.
Ah ah ah

 

[BobBarley]

Well, i am a Theraphosidae registered sex offender, i admit that (SpiderWatch, Prrrt!, lol) but still, i'm trying at my best to redeem myself, lol.
Ah ah ah

That explains it... Lol

 

[Chris LXXIX]

That explains it... Lol

Well, yes. At least i'm not a somewhat "Scrooge" of feelings, but a kind man. Deranged, twisted? Yes.
But kind and collected in surface. That's the important thing nowadays

 

[BobBarley]

Well, yes. At least i'm not a somewhat "Scrooge" of feelings, but a kind man. Deranged, twisted? Yes.
But kind and collected in surface. That's the important thing nowadays

Kind and collected... Ha hahahahha, you make me laugh. I see the deranged and twisted though lol.