Curly/red rump hybrid

[rachelgatt330]

I just got 2 slings at an expo today and was wondering if anyone had this hybrid and if i could see pictures? I’m was told to house like my curly. I also got a Brazilian blue sling that I’m super excited about.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

I’m wondering why someone would breed a hybrid? That’s usually not a good idea it would look like part of each species .

 

[AphonopelmaTX]

Back in the old days of the hobby, as in 20-25 years ago, these were called Brachypelma “albovagans.” Pictures of confirmed hybrids where each parent have been confirmed to be the two species are hard to come by, but this image is the closest to what the hybrids would look like.

B. Angustum? Please Help With Id. Thanks.

Please help identify this spider. Was sold as a Brachypelma Angustum by a breeder. I want to be 100% sure, though. Pictures taken just after molting. The specimen is 100% female.

arachnoboards.com

 

[rachelgatt330]

I’m wondering why someone would breed a hybrid? That’s usually not a good idea it would look like part of each species .

I actually saw a few people with this hybrid at this show still new so I’m trying to learn

 

[Brewser]

Hybridization like it or not ...(Personally not...)
Is bound to occur...

 

[AphonopelmaTX]

Hybrids get so much hate around here and I'm not sure why exactly. To me, hybrids are produced by those involved in the exotic pet trade for the exotic pet trade and are something of biological novelties. Whether intended are not, attempts at hybridizing two tarantula species are tests of the biological species concept used in taxonomy. As such it would be interesting to see notes on which two closely related species could mate, whether the eggs develop into nymphs, and whether spiderlings survive to adulthood or at which point in development they start to die out. As a naturalist first, pet keeper second my only concern is the possibility of the hybrid offspring being released back into the environment(s) the parent species came from. I don't see that as a likely outcome though considering most tarantula species on the market today come from exotic locations.

Before I would even consider buying a hybrid tarantula, the following criteria would have to be met.

1. Each parent species would have to be properly identified to species level with proof.
This point would basically disqualify any available hybrid purchase with me because most tarantulas are very difficult to identify properly and others are impossible to identify because of the lack of availability of a proper identification key. Also, I don't trust anyone to sell me a properly identified tarantula these days because of the complexities of doing so therefore I would not expect this criterion to ever be met. I know how to identify tarantulas, you're not dealing with an average pet keeper. LOL

2. If criterion #1 is met, then photos of the adult parents used in mating would have to be provided prior to purchase. Photos or video of the actual mating would be preferred.
This way, I would have something to compare the spiderlings to as they grow and mature and be able to see what characters came from the mother and father species. Assuming the hybrid offspring actually survive to adulthood anyway. In the event of two species being remarkably different in appearance, this criterion could take the place of the first.

3. Hybrids would have to be sold as a hybrid and not misrepresented in any way.
Following the previous two criteria, if you are selling me a hybrid, prove it. I will never buy a tarantula suspected as being a hybrid or a hybrid that looks like it could be a valid species. I'm thinking of the alleged Brachypelma boehmei X B. baumgarteni hybrids when writing this one. You are not going to prove to me that you have a hybrid by nitpicking markings and color found within the nooks and crannies on the body.

4. The price of a hybrid is no more than what one would charge for either of the parent species.
This is to avoid contributing to any kind of get-rich-quick scheme where someone would charge far more for a hybrid than either of the valid parent species. Hybrids may interest me from a biological curiosity point of view, but I will not contribute to the production of hybrids for the sake of making money.

I think that will do it on the subject for today.

 

[viper69]

Hybrids get so much hate around here and I'm not sure why exactly

Are you serious, you aren’t sure???

You’d be a lot of “fun” on the dendroboard forum with such a thought.

 

[Brewser]

Hybrids In the Hobby...

1 - Accidental by Mistaken Identity
2 - Purposeful for Profit

 

[LilithArachne]

Show pics once you get them please!!

 

[rachelgatt330]

Show pics once you get them please!!

Show pics once you get them please!!

So tiny. Look slightly different than the regular curly baby I got. They were all like $4 each. I’ve never had tiny slings so i decided to go with a few cheaper ones to get the hang of it. I bought 4 babies all together and they seem to be doing ok but one is a little slower than the rest and it happens to be one of the supposed hybrids