(crossbreeding) G. rosea X G.iheringi

[TheNatural]

I will post some pics of an very unusual mating that I took at a friends house

Grammostola rosea red phase X Grammostola iheringi

I know that many of you are against hybridism so I want to to ensure everybody that, if my friend gets any sling from this, they will NEVER get out of his house, not one!

 

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[Lorgakor]

Those are two gorgeous spiders! Be sure to post pics of the slings if there are any. Will that male go on to mate with his own species after?

 

[TheNatural]

Those are two gorgeous spiders! Be sure to post pics of the slings if there are any. Will that male go on to mate with his own species after?

hi laura,e
yes ,we did mate him 5 timas with a very nice G iheringi female and than we took the risk with the rosea, anyway his is twice her size.

 

[fartkowski]

Yeh I agree, those are two very nice looking T's.
I would love to see pictures of what the slings look like.
Thnaks for sharing.
chris

 

[ballpython2]

I wanna buy two slings please!!!!! even three!!!!!!!

 

[P. Novak]

Dang, that's crazy, those slings would be so beautiful if any do produce.

Good luck with the pairing!

 

[TheNatural]

hi guys, my friend will send me pics and I will post them here absolutly but you must remember .... we are talking about Grammostola genus, so we will have to sit and wait to see the results. If he gets slings, these are very slooooow growers.

Another intersting thing to consider is that hybrids are very weak and slow growers themselfs too, once I had the opportunity to have 20 hybrids (L.parahybana x L.subcanens) only one survived and took 3 years to reach 3cm yes we are talking about Lasiodora genus, fast growers. Another example was Vitallius sorocabae x Vitalius vellutinus, from what I know no one alive today and all them were tinny and weak.

 

[RottweilExpress]

Interesting that they actually mated.

 

[LittleGiRLy]

Its good you guys are gonna hold onto those slings and not sell them, or that would be a really messy problem. Anyway, beautiful pictures! your camerawork was very well done

 

[glamiswarrior]

very interesting. i've always wondered how many different species of tarantulas would and could actually successfully mate, also how many cross bred tarantulas there are in the wild. there must be many.....makes you think of different animals as well, like the "liger" which was successfully produced from a male tiger and female lion, theres pictures of it online. can two different species of shark mate, monkeys, elephants, birds.....the list goes on and on.

 

[TheNatural]

I think its was very interesting to notice that they communicate very well, I saw they drumming and making signs and the female was totaly receptive, more than when I saw her mating with a male of her own specie (she was pissed).
These are two very different species in this genus,one from drier areas in the north and the other from the south, more humid regions.

 

[tacoma0680]

Why would you want to X breed spiders? they are not made to X breed them

 

[TheNatural]

Why would you want to X breed spiders? they are not made to X breed them

Well, I guess we, human beings, are not the kind of animals tha follow the nature rules. Otherwise we would never have conquested the fire or invented the wheel.

We were not made to be sitten in a chair using a keybord, we were made to be in the savanas hunting and collecting fruits, but we are here, aren´t we?

What I mean is that we have a very strong curiosity that takes us to new horizons and leads us to be what we are now. I just think we must do it wisely and carefuly but I see no problem if they dont go anywhere.

 

[Stylopidae]

Why would you want to X breed spiders? they are not made to X breed them

Most, if not all people who crossbreed or want to crossbreed spiders don't understand the biological species concept and/or how species are described.

The Natural is surprised that hybrids would be sickly or weak or experience massive dieoffs, but that's what the biological species concept generally is.

Under the biological species concept two distinct species cannot have healthy, viable offspring that will reproduce another generation.

There are species that are also described by the ecological or morphological species concepts, but these aren't nearly as decisive as the biological species concept.

My knowledge of this area is relatively weak (I'm just now beginning my private research ventures on this subject), but if you've bothered to research how the species are described and how they're laid out in their environment you'd be able to make a pretty good guess at whether or not the two spiders in question would produce offspring.

A lot of species are described by the BSC nowadays and many of the taxonomists on the boards use this method.

This is just another case of someone who's ignorant about the biology/classification systems doing something idiotic and rationalizing their desire to play god by thinking of themselves as a scientist.