crickets fight

[shiroitaka]

does anyone have black field crickets in their local area? if you can capture two males you might be able to put them together and watch a good fight. They have a pair of large mandibles. In China this is an actual sport and a lot of people bet money on them. it's interesting stuff, you guys should check it out.
btw, if you do have them in your area and you are out to collect them, make sure that you have a different container for each male, otherwise you might come home with a lot of crickets, but they'll all have partially missing legs.

 

[looseyfur]

If they fight of their own valition because they incounter eachother outdoors, thats one thing....

Forcing a fight is another which I find completely deplorable.






Looseyfur

 

[FOOTBALL FAN]

If they fight of their own valition because they incounter eachother outdoors, thats one thing....

Forcing a fight is another which I find completely deplorable.






Looseyfur

I agree with you on this one

 

[SouthernStyle]

Some people and their forms of amusment just makes me sick.....

 

[musihuto]

i think that saying they are being "forced" to fight would be a gross misuse of the word "forced"... ;P
are you suggesting that people who keep crickets should have an individual container for each male cricket?
yes, cruelty to animals should be avoided, but going overboard in the opposite direction is equally ludicrous...

cheers!
- munis

 

[FOOTBALL FAN]

i think that saying they are being "forced" to fight would be a gross misuse of the word "forced"... ;P
are you suggesting that people who keep crickets should have an individual container for each male cricket?
yes, cruelty to animals should be avoided, but going overboard in the opposite direction is equally ludicrous...

cheers!
- munis

thats a bit different though because they are not getting purposefully put together to fight for someones macarbe enjoyment

 

[dtknow]

The mandibles on those things sure are huge!

Btw, house crickets are pretty vicious too, though seldom actually fight. Put 5+ chirping males together on a tiny piece of eggcrate and then add in a female and watch the action.

 

[EAD063]

thats a bit different though because they are not getting purposefully put together to fight for someones macarbe enjoyment

I guess your not a fan of the Roman empire, lol. Ahhh, the beauty of being a part of the upper class. Although they're theory was that they'd rather watch two people who wanted to fight, rather than two people forced to fight. I guess if someone did this type of thing everyday it would be rude, but I see no difference with putting 2 crickets together or 2000, if they're gonna fight, they're gonna fight.

 

[shiroitaka]

don't really want to start an arguement here, but some people started speaking out way too early. The history of crickets fighting goes back a long way. Do a little research and you see what i am talking about.
and they don't fight to the death. The loser would run away. It is the same way with Japanese stage beetles. They are use for fighting, but the loser doesn't die, he just get boot off the log.
anyway, all i can say is just do some research first before you say anything.
thanks,
Jason

 

[FOOTBALL FAN]

don't really want to start an arguement here, but some people started speaking out way too early. The history of crickets fighting goes back a long way.
Jason

that doesnt make it right though, im not arguing either I just think its a bit scatty

 

[beetleman]

I agree with you on this one

DITTO!!

 

[bugmankeith]

In Japan or China crickets are captured and fought, and the winning cricket's owner gets payed alot of money. Then again they build bamboo cages for their crickets and keep them as important members of their family permenantly.

I guess in the US it's stupid to fight them, even for fun, at least in japan or china the people have great honor for crickets, and that's been their tradition for years and years, and I dont think it's a fight to the death, just to see who is stronger cricket(like those beetle fights in tailand)

For the more non-violent discussion, I have kept these in large cages (male and female), and they hardly bothered eachother, most just ate and dig in the dirt. They are fun pets to have if you dont mind the chirping, and I find them easy to breed. (and they LOVE white bread!)

I have kept female petstore crickets and female field crickets together in an egg-laying tank, and the field crickets are very territorial. But a male petstore cricket will attempt to breed with a female field cricket, but are usually unsuccesful because female field crickets are much stronger and aggressive, they kick as a defense.

 

[thisgal]

People, they're just crickets. I'm not condoning the whole deal, but at least they're not talking about dogfights here. Caaaaaaalm thyself.

 

[musihuto]

my last word on the matter is that unless someone can look me in the eyes and tell me they derive no pleasure whatesoever from watching say, your T sink its fangs into a cricket, they really are not in any position to argue against cruelty to crickets...

cheers
- munis

 

[TNeal]

I find that placing any living creature together to fight just to amuse humans is abominable. Whether it be a dog, cock, fish or even measly crickets does not matter. It's just deplorable to create suffering just for amusement.

As far as causing suffering whenfeeding one critter to another - we all do it but i hope its not for the sole pleasure of causing pain on another living creature. There is a huge difference between causing pain for pleasure and causing pain as a nessisity of life, such as feeding.

Just my thought,

TNeal

 

[ShadowBlade]

my last word on the matter is that unless someone can look me in the eyes and tell me they derive no pleasure whatesoever from watching say, your T sink its fangs into a cricket, they really are not in any position to argue against cruelty to crickets...

Agree 100%. The crix get less damage fighting each other, then they do getting eaten by a T.

These are CRICKETS. Mindless (almost) little bugs that DO NOT know if their own legs are torn off. They most likely do not even feel pain. They forget the whole freakin' incident happened after about 5 seconds. Come one guys...

What do you think everyone here on the boards does?? Rip legs off crix, freeze them, tear them in half, and what say you, to feed their pets, kept for their own amusement.
My $.02

-Sean

 

[musihuto]

You bring up an interesting and legitimate point, that is the issue of intent, and the fact that it has moral relevence.
If someone creates a situation of any sort with the sole intent of enjoying another creature's pain, then I would agree that this act is unambiguously wrong. (I'm not saying that I would never engineer an embarrassing situation for my arch-nemesis, but lets leave human-human interactions out of this for the time-being!)
Thus, in defending some of the practices that I have been, I do so in the hopes that they are motivated not by a desire to see a creature in pain, but moreso by a curious desire to observe the mechanics, aesthetics, behaviour, etc. of invertebrate conflict in its many diverse forms.

cheers!
- munis

I find that placing any living creature together to fight just to amuse humans is abominable. Whether it be a dog, cock, fish or even measly crickets does not matter. It's just deplorable to create suffering just for amusement.

As far as causing suffering whenfeeding one critter to another - we all do it but i hope its not for the sole pleasure of causing pain on another living creature. There is a huge difference between causing pain for pleasure and causing pain as a nessisity of life, such as feeding.

Just my thought,

TNeal

 

[-Sarah-]

Well, to be honest, every creature is going to feel some form of pain. A dog will yipe if you step on a paw by accident, but crickets have no way of communicating vocally either than chirping to 'express their emotions', if you will... and you're not going to want to sing after just having your leg torn off Crickets are going to fight regardless of whether you put them in a container together or if they come across each other out in the wild. Even though I've never personally been a fan of animal (and/or bug) fights, I've already seen crickets on top of other crickets in my cricket keeper and after I've shooed them off to grab one, I realised they'd been nibbling on the ones below that are very much alive. And they have plenty of food. It's sick, but that's life. Although even prey animals and insects feel pain,that is just a factor of life. Mice that get fed to tarantulas feel just as much pain as crickets do, I'm sure. But, they were put here as a food source, and we should respect that. But in the least, we should also remember that even though they are on the food chain, they can feel pain just as we can... whether they're the size of a dust mite or as large as a horse. Just my opinion

-Sarah

 

[ShadowBlade]

they can feel pain just as we can... whether they're the size of a dust mite or as large as a horse. Just my opinion

Nah they don't.
The fact that a mantis will continue to eat if its abdomen is torn off, or a cricket clean its feet and live for hours while being chewed on by a scorp, or a cockroach lives without a head. Questions the fact that they have similar responses to injury.

 

[bugmankeith]

Well their brains are located in a different areas than us, and they have more legs than us, but they still have senses like us and react to things like us(such as injury, or starvation) If they are hungry they will look for food, if temperatures are not favorable they will look for a more comfortable place to live if they can.

Pain or injury for them in the wild =weakness, so they try to hide it as much as possible, but that doesnt mean they dont feel it.