Cornsnake breeds

softturtle

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No its not a levender. Its purple. If it is its a lavender,it is patternless purple lavender (could be). And about it not being one of a kind, I havent been able to find a pic of one even slightly simalar. So in my eyes, its one of a kind.

I don't get what you are saying about the "rarity" of these animals. They aren't rare becuase there will be a bunch of them sometime?

rare- Infrequently occurring; uncommon: a rare event;(ex.) a plant that is rare in this region.

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Are you saying (for example) that there is as many blue eyed leucistic ball pythons as there are normal ones (mind you there wasn't one in captivity until the 90's so was it not rare when they found it?)? If not, it means they are rare. And the same goes for cornsnakes as well, unless there are the same amount of animals for every morph. lol

Do you think that becuase it consist of the same parts as a normal colored one that it isn't rare.

Forgive me if I seem as though I am attacking someone, I am not, I just like a good debate.
 

Steffen

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I gave you a perfect example before. :)

The true Okeetee cornsnake, that is rare. A colorvariant is not rare. It is just a genetic flaw. I don't care if there is one or a million of that color out there, just cross some different mutations and you will have a new morph again. It's not rare. It is still in fact a cornsnake. :)

mind you there wasn't one in captivity until the 90's so was it not rare when they found it?)?
Yup the color was rare, but it is simply a genetic flaw and it should in fact be less worth than a normal colored animal, but some greedy people turned that upside down. But the question of the topic, your being ripped off... even if it was rare, because soon it wont be rare anymore again. Why do people not like albino people better than the normal ones? They are all white and red eyed! :rolleyes:
 

softturtle

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Steffen said:
Why do people not like albino people better than the normal ones?
I bet if people were buying humans they would like them better.
You know that a Okeetee is a color variant, right? It was a genetic flaw. It is still Elaphe guttata guttata, nothing more. Is it becuase it was found in the wild that makes it rare? Those snakes range for a few counties, some designers only range is only one persons snake room.
But I guess this all boils down to the market. People will continue to buy these snakes for lots of money becuase they are rare. And I don't think it is going to change since the market will not get flooded with them (becuase they are not available like normal) and the prices will ride on that. It as all just personal opinion I guess. No snake is really worth more than another, but if you think like this, nothing is of value.
 
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softturtle

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Steffen said:
But the question of the topic, your being ripped off... even if it was rare, because soon it wont be rare anymore again.
It might not be really rare but $60 for a corn is not bad. If you like it get it.
 

Steffen

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You know that a Okeetee is a color variant, right?
Nope it's not. The captive bred morph is. That is what I was pointing out, but I didn't succed, it seems. ;) The true Okeetee from the Okeetee hunt club differs from the morph Okeetee and all other cornsnakes in both size and colors. However the colors are not different, simply just stronger.

But then again, the normal form is a colorvariant aswell, but that is not the point what so ever. All those captive bred colormorphs are simply not rare. I could cut of the tale of one of my snakes, and then it would be different aswell. Can I call my snake rare then? And yes I CAN compare this, because now python regius is being bred without skeels aswell and that is exactly the same... it is missing parts of its physical aspects. Hail and glory to the morph breeders! :evil:
 

Thoth

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JungleGuts said:
my friend will sell me his 2 year old ghost cornsnake for 45$...what do you think it would sell for on a reptile auction site? anyone have any idea?

dan
Thats a good price for a 2 year old corn (seeing hatchlings at most shows go for $20-25). I'd be suprised it goes for more than $75
 

softturtle

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Steffen said:
Nope it's not. The captive bred morph is. That is what I was pointing out, but I didn't succed, it seems. ;) The true Okeetee from the Okeetee hunt club differs from the morph Okeetee and all other cornsnakes in both size and colors. However the colors are not different, simply just stronger.

But then again, the normal form is a colorvariant aswell, but that is not the point what so ever. All those captive bred colormorphs are simply not rare. I could cut of the tale of one of my snakes, and then it would be different aswell. Can I call my snake rare then? And yes I CAN compare this, because now python regius is being bred without skeels aswell and that is exactly the same... it is missing parts of its physical aspects. Hail and glory to the morph breeders! :evil:
So they cut the scales off, huh? And the Okeetee, a different species?
 

Mushroom Spore

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softturtle said:
So they cut the scales off, huh? And the Okeetee, a different species?
You're being needlessly confrontational.

Steffen: DEAR GOD WHY :eek:
 
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