Confermation of species

[Up_North]

This is the begining of my Scorp colection. I picked these guys up just a while ago. The first one was sold to me as a Desert Hairy however he dosn't seem to have the color of Arizonensis or Spadix. I am not sure of the age of this little one but I can tell you he is about the length of a quarter. The second one was labled Heterometrus Spinifer. But everything I have read says they have a blue glow to them and this one seems to have a red coloration? Can some one tell me Do I really have what I was sold?

 

[fusion121]

The top one is a Vaejovid of some kind, not a Desert Hairy. The second one is a Heterometrus spp. could well be H. spinifer.

 

[Up_North]

If it is infact a Vaejovid of some kind I had better rethink its home! It is curently housed on sand with very little humidity. The only problem is if it is not and I boost the humidity up it could kill a desert species. Ahh what to do? Any one else? When I bought this guy I was told it was a scorpling!
John

 

[ThatGuy]

The top one is a Vaejovid of some kind, not a Desert Hairy. The second one is a Heterometrus spp. could well be H. spinifer.

I second that.

 

[Brian S]

The first one looks like a Vaejovis sp to me. I dont think it is a scorpling but an old adult.

 

[cashewman1]

Vaejovis or suppose to be very small, And i woudl agree that it is a spinifer, Elongated chelae with some roughness to it, Black telson, and protrusions on the prosoma. The red could just be a random pigment in the claws and i dont really think its a cavimanus, lots of black scorps can have some pigmentation like that, it causes many to confuse emp with cavimanus etc

 

[Fluid Filter]

I would argue that it is a H. laoticus since its protosoma? or head area is so smooth without any granulation. It also doesnt seem as shiny as a H. spinifer should be. G. Carnell should weigh in sooner or later to set us all straight.

 

[Alakdan]

I would argue that it is a H. laoticus since its protosoma? or head area is so smooth without any granulation. It also doesnt seem as shiny as a H. spinifer should be. G. Carnell should weigh in sooner or later to set us all straight.

I'm more inclined to think that it is a H. laoticus. The chela is more robust than spinifer's. I also noticed that the greenish color is not as shiny and bright as a spinifer.

Although I'm not an expert, I keep both laoticus and spinifer, so I'm able to make a closer comparison.

 

[Scorpfanatic]

H.laotics is my bet, spinifer has much rougher edges ard the head, and that scorp here is way too smooth same for the pincers

 

[cashewman1]

Haha ill take your opinon over mine, i was just going off what little info i have learned about spin from reading various threads here. I dont even own one yet, just givin my two cents. But id say three experienced votes vs one novice vote equals you guys win. so probably h Laoctis

 

[Ryan C.]

Yeah, I would also say it looks like H. loaticus, usually loaticus has red coloration on the claws.

 

[cacoseraph]

If it is infact a Vaejovid of some kind I had better rethink its home! It is curently housed on sand with very little humidity. The only problem is if it is not and I boost the humidity up it could kill a desert species. Ahh what to do? Any one else? When I bought this guy I was told it was a scorpling!
John

i keep my Vaejovids a little moister than Hadrurus, but not by a whole lot

both kinda deserty

 

[Metzgermeister]

:? wow.. i bought a scorpion recently labeled "emperor" but it looks like a H. laoticus... How different are they in terms of care?

 

[Ryan C.]

They aren't, keep Heterometrus spp. same as any Pandinus spp.

 

[Up_North]

I too thought that the big guy looked more like H.Laoticus to me as well. Just judging by pics on sites. Now my problem is the little guy some of you say Vaejovids and others say Vaejovis. Too me it looks like Vaejovis S. no that I look at pics. should I just mist once and a while or should I mix some peat and soil with the sand so it holds more moisture? What do the pro's say? I realy like this little guy and most care sheets say they like it a little more humid. He does look a little dry!

 

[Ryan C.]

When they say vaejovid they mean the family vaejovidae which the genus vaejovis is in.

 

[fusion121]

Yes Vaejovis is a more specific ID, All I can say is that its a vaejovid because I'm awful with that family, plus I've seen over time that people almost never get good IDs of that family from pictures.

 

[Ryan C.]

Yeah it always seems everyone is having trouble identifying Vaejovids.