Communal New World Ts?

[Trenor]

Photo of incei in communal, I wonder if you saw the same one recycled on the internet. The one I saw was years ago, and is no longer available from the source site.

This was a bushy field that was covered in a big patch of web. I can't remember the site but the article said there were lots of incei Ts all living in the web. I'll see if I can hunt it down when I'm not at work.

 

[BobBarley]

I'm trying an incei communal right now. 5 slings in a 10 gallon enclosure... I made the enclosure slope downwards and, interestingly, all of them have gravitated toward the bottom of the slope. A couple made hideouts at the top of the slope at first, but abandoned them within a few days. As far as I can tell, all 5 made it through their first molt with me so far. They all have different web hide-outs, but a couple of the hideouts are connected by webbing and are only an inch or two apart.

 

[cold blood]

My advice on communals:

Dont

Get past this notion...ts are solitary creatures....incei is the "most" communal, but they kill each other all the time....even long term success is generally met with eventual bloodshed.

Imo there is one, and only one single species of t that should ever be kept communally, and thats M. balfouri.

I dont get the allure of forcing predators to get along because of some rare or limited succes one heard about. To me it nothing more than trying to make a t something its not.

 

[ThatJaneLady]

I dont get the allure of forcing predators to get along because of some rare or limited succes one heard about. To me it nothing more than trying to make a t something its not.

My motive for a communal tank is that I have a tank too large for a single T so I thought I would give it a go. I don't expect the Ts to cuddle up together and roast crickets around a camp fire.

 

[viper69]

This was a bushy field that was covered in a big patch of web. I can't remember the site but the article said there were lots of incei Ts all living in the web. I'll see if I can hunt it down when I'm not at work.

I believe we have seen different pics. The pics I saw were on TCanada's site. Im hoping Martin's wife hunts down their vacation photos for me of the incei.

 

[AphonopelmaTX]

Imo there is one, and only one single species of t that should ever be kept communally, and thats M. balfouri.

Has adult M. balfouri been successfully kept in a group long term without any of them killing another? I'm out of the loop on all this. As far as I know there are two circumstances in which tarantulas will live communally (in the true sense of the word communal) in nature: 1) spiderlings living in the maternal burrow with mom and 2) adult Poecilotheria which are forced to live together due to loss of suitable habitat.

 

[viper69]

2) adult Poecilotheria which are forced to live together due to loss of suitable habitat.

Would you call that truly communal though? If their habitat magically restored sounds like they would not remain together? I guess it depends upon one's definition of communal though.

I wish someone would come back from Socotra Island with video of that species to see how they live in the wild. I'm unaware of any data supporting the captive communal living behavior owners have observed. I would think someone has seen this... but maybe not.

 

[Venom1080]

My motive for a communal tank is that I have a tank too large for a single T so I thought I would give it a go. I don't expect the Ts to cuddle up together and roast crickets around a camp fire.

theres just gonna be one fat T.

 

[cold blood]

Has adult M. balfouri been successfully kept in a group long term without any of them killing another? I'm out of the loop on all this. As far as I know there are two circumstances in which tarantulas will live communally (in the true sense of the word communal) in nature: 1) spiderlings living in the maternal burrow with mom and 2) adult Poecilotheria which are forced to live together due to loss of suitable habitat.

@Blue Jaye has had a long term communal going for generations without loss. On top of that, shes made consistent observations of singles growing considerably slower than those kept communally.

Ive heard of several other long term communals with balfouri, but blue jay is the only one i recall off the top of my head. Maybe she will srop by with her insights.

Aside from this one species, i totally agree with your asessment Lonnie.

 

[Trenor]

My motive for a communal tank is that I have a tank too large for a single T so I thought I would give it a go. I don't expect the Ts to cuddle up together and roast crickets around a camp fire.

theres just gonna be one fat T.

Depends on what she puts in there and how she raises them. I'd totally load that thing up with a few M.balfouri.

adult Poecilotheria which are forced to live together due to loss of suitable habitat.

Would you call that truly communal though?

I would. Do you really think we would choose to live in communities if we didn't have to? We ban together cause we had to to survive.

@Blue Jaye has had a long term communal going for generations without loss. On top of that, shes made consistent observations of singles growing considerably slower than those kept communally.

Ive heard of several other long term communals with balfouri, but blue jay is the only one i recall off the top of my head. Maybe she will srop by with her insights.

Aside from this one species, i totally agree with your asessment Lonnie.

I was going to say @Blue Jaye too. I can't remember the guy who had the communal for a while when I 1st joined but I don't think he lost any either.