Collected in Peru or Chile ID-Bothriuridae?

[Tityus]

Hi Alex,

Yes the picture of the preserved one is a male here a picture of my female

 

[fusion121]

Yes the picture of the preserved one is a male here a picture of my female

That looks more like the C.keyserlingi, does it have the same coxosternal region as the preserved one?

 

[Ythier]

Hi,

@Fusion : yes sorry, Caraboctonus is in Iuridae in the Polis.

@Tom : As Oliver and Alex, I think your scorpion (the male, I'm not sure for the other one) is the Bothiuridae, not Caraboctonus. Male C.keyserlingi doesn't have as much bulbous hands as the Bothriurid, and your specimen definitely has a Bothriurid' sternum.

@Alex : you're the man ! :clap: I didn't think to compare pectine teeth of both species. My adult male C.keyserlingi has 11 pectine teeths, my subadult female has 9/10.
Bothriurids have 15/16 pectine teeths...it's now too easy to differenciate them !

 

[Michael]

Hi

I have bought my species at the same time from the same person as Tom: N. Belker.
I just cheked again and the sternum of mine specimen is totaly different from Tom's species. The sternum of my species is exect the same as in the species from Oliver. So N.Belker sold two different species: Caraboctonus keyserlingi and Bothiuridae, i have Caraboctonus keyserlingi.

I have seen some more differents by these two species.
-Look at the telson it is different in form between Bothiuridae and C.keyserlingi.

-and the granules on tergite VII by Caraboctonus keyserlingi, there are many of them on tergite VII. (don't know in Bothiuridae)?

Regards
Michael

 

[Tityus]

Here the pictures of my female she don't like me :8o The venom drop's from her telson

 

[Ythier]

Sternum shape + 10 pectine teeths = probably Caraboctonus...

 

[SurfinJB]

Here's the pic. Any ideas? Again this scorp is only about an inch and a half or so..

 

[Ythier]

Here's the pic. Any ideas? Again this scorp is only about an inch and a half or so..

I think this one is a Bothriuridae, not the black species with are talking but an other : if I remember well Alex put some times ago in the Scorpion picture thread some pics of a yellow/grey Chilean Bothriurid looking like your specimen : perhaps it is the same species ?
Cheers

 

[Nazgul]

Hi,

yes, it is the same species. This is the only one I already determined down to genus level, it should be a Bothriurus sp.

Regards
Alex

 

[Michael]

Hi,
granules on the last tergite(VII) Caraboctonus keyserlingi

 

[Ythier]

Useful thread, now we are all able to differenciate Bothriuridae/Caraboctonus

 

[MattM]

Haha, indeed I'll have a look at it tonight, I think I got 2 Keyserlingi's according these explainings.

 

[TheNothing]

ah, this is a wonderful thread
i don't have any of the aforementioned scorpions, but you never know what might happen...

 

[SurfinJB]

Thank you all for the great info...and to answer the question there are a few if your interested.. Just contact Glades herp..we got in 10 exactly but I think I may keep one for myself

 

[Eurypterid]

EDITED - Never mind, I'll just e-mail you.

 

[MattM]

Oke, I got one positive ID on a Keyserlingi, the other one hasn't shown itself, so thats still a questionmark.

 

[wikkid_devil]

Oh the joy of a search function that works!

I had a pair of Caraboctonus keyserlingi (claimed by supplier) delivered yesterday. Now I will be able to check for definate!

Mine are displaying decidedly aboreal and very aggresive tendancies, taking on crickets their own size (they have been eating the same crix for over 12 hours now ).

Can anyone comment on the sociability of these scorps? My two seem happy enough together at the moment, but I shall be keeping a close eye on them.

These little scorps appear to have very fat tails proportionally to the rest of the body and very delicate pincers (almost look like little chocolate parabuthids), does anyone have any details on the comparaive toxicity of the venom?

 

[Nazgul]

Hi,

a couple of mine held hands for about 3 - 4 weeks, then the female finally ate the male without any spermatophore transfer.

Regards
Alex

 

[fusion121]

I had a pair of Caraboctonus keyserlingi (claimed by supplier) delivered yesterday. Now I will be able to check for definate!

Mine are displaying decidedly aboreal and very aggresive tendancies, taking on crickets their own size (they have been eating the same crix for over 12 hours now ).

Can anyone comment on the sociability of these scorps? My two seem happy enough together at the moment, but I shall be keeping a close eye on them.

These little scorps appear to have very fat tails proportionally to the rest of the body and very delicate pincers (almost look like little chocolate parabuthids), does anyone have any details on the comparaive toxicity of the venom?

My Caraboctonus keyserlingi is very terrestrial it digs extensive tunnel networks and rarely ventures above the surface. As Alex indicated they are probably not that communal, since little is known about them it would be better to keep them separately. Considering the family the scorpions are from the venom is likely to be pretty mild, also taking into account the size of the scorpions they are not going to be a dangerous species, certainly not comparable to any buthid.

 

[MattM]

I second that fusion121,

Keyserlingi is almost underground all the time. They dig like crazy. Once every 4 or 5 weeks I see one of them running around. That's about it. Too bad, since they are realy amazing looking scorps. Pretty agressive too, just point a finger and it will try to kill everything around it (read: the air ), and venom drips out of it's telson. Pretty amazing sight, for such a little bugger

I keep both of mine seperated, just in case. Haven't tried to put them together, and I don't think I ever will.