Coffee grounds for substrate? Does caffeine affect T's?

MetalMan2004

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My P smithi at any given point acts like its had a whole pot of coffee. Quite nervous, a little shaky and pretty wired.
 

Ellenantula

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I too am wondering what the perks would be over regular substrate. :angelic:

I cannot imagine it would pack well nor allow easy burrowing. Not to mention chemical composition that could harm T.
I am sure you could google coffee uses and find some other way to repurpose the grounds.
 

mconnachan

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As has been said WHY! WHY! WHY!, don't you have earth where you live? It's just not.......
 

GreyPsyche

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I was gonna post something comical because he set us up for it so well but I kinda got to think in it's just sad, oh well...

Let's throw out spiders in a vat of probably toxic chemicals...you know caffeine is a natural bug repellent so I'm sure everything else in there is also just as good.
 

Moakmeister

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>Jeez can you imagine
>friggin OBT on caffeine
>outruns the speed of light
>invisible to the human eye
>scariest thing imaginable
 
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Tanner Dzula

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All silliness aside, i like the creativity of your question.

as I'm sure somebody had to do at some point with coco fiber and other such substrates, you seem to be coming from a good place with this question.

i mean, it is logical to want to know if its possible, especially if you literally have an almost endless supply of the stuff. Everything we have and we know currently is most likely there because at some point, somebody stopped and asked, is this possible?

like, can you imagine the first person to take a coconut, grind it up to almost a powder, and then ask themselves if its possible to put their animals on it to live on? the guy probably got laughed right out of the pet shop, and here we are years later with pounds and pounds of these ground up coconuts with tarantulas living just fine on them.
 

Vermis

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What Tanner said. (Except that I understood coco fibre was a peat alternative for plants and gardening, first)

As has been said WHY! WHY! WHY!, don't you have earth where you live? It's just not.......
Because he designs coffee grinders for a living and has a buttload of the stuff just going to waste. It's aaaall there in the first post.
He asked, and was informed. I found it pretty eye-opening myself. No harm, no foul.
 

mconnachan

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What Tanner said. (Except that I understood coco fibre was a peat alternative for plants and gardening, first)



Because he designs coffee grinders for a living and has a buttload of the stuff just going to waste. It's aaaall there in the first post.
He asked, and was informed. I found it pretty eye-opening myself. No harm, no foul.
Well I feel a foul has been committed, to even ask if the grounds could be used is a foul IMO, what kind of lateral thinking is that, eco - earth isn't expensive, so why would you want to use COFFEE GROUNDS that have caffeine in them, the grounds would most definitely enter the T in some way, imagine your T on caffeine, not a nice thing to even contemplate.
 

mconnachan

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All silliness aside, i like the creativity of your question.

as I'm sure somebody had to do at some point with coco fiber and other such substrates, you seem to be coming from a good place with this question.

i mean, it is logical to want to know if its possible, especially if you literally have an almost endless supply of the stuff. Everything we have and we know currently is most likely there because at some point, somebody stopped and asked, is this possible?

like, can you imagine the first person to take a coconut, grind it up to almost a powder, and then ask themselves if its possible to put their animals on it to live on? the guy probably got laughed right out of the pet shop, and here we are years later with pounds and pounds of these ground up coconuts with tarantulas living just fine on them.
Coco fibre breaks down on it's own in the wild, T's have been found using this in the wild, so no - one ever stopped and thought "Oh I wonder if I can use this" it was already being utilised by tarantulas so we decided to use it as a substrate, it's not that hard to figure it out.
 

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Well I feel a foul has been committed, to even ask if the grounds could be used is a foul IMO, what kind of lateral thinking is that, eco - earth isn't expensive, so why would you want to use COFFEE GROUNDS that have caffeine in them, the grounds would most definitely enter the T in some way, imagine your T on caffeine, not a nice thing to even contemplate.
Lateral thinking? I was unaware of the pros vs cons and brought up the question. How do I find the answer without dredging up impish comments like this? Do I need to preface my inquiry with a statement that "no tarantulas were harmed during this purely-speculative investigation"? Thats like me being offended when someone asks if air is a good conductor. Honest questions deserve well-meaning, honest answers.
 

darkness975

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I've been wondering this for a few weeks now and I figured I may as well ask. One facet of my job involves designing a new coffee grinder. Naturally, we churn through large quantities of coffee of various granularity. If the caffeine were extracted (say, for making coffee) would the leftover grind be a suitable substrate? I think it would be fascinating to try a couple different grinds in the same terrarium to see which one the T goes for.

I know that other chemicals can be detrimental to a T...but what if was a decaf grind? Does anyone know if caffeine affects T's?

Please forgive any obviously noobish tinges to my questions...but give it to me straight, doc. :nurse:
I would not risk it.
 
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