Chicken-eating spider

[Nerri1029]

There's a Japonese saying FIX the problem NOT the blame.

So I say to you.. all

IT IS totally appropriate to QUESTION ones authority/ knowledge on a subject and their methods for gaining or reporting those findings ..
It happens in Scientific Journals ALL THE TIME..
Peer Review..

In todays TV savvy ( dammit I can't SPELL ) world Scientific Info has to be Glammed Up a bit to be appealing to the masses... thus adding to the skepticism of their work.

WHAT are this man's credentials? I haven't looked..
What allows him to be believed..

I will admit from my BRIEF exposure to him he seems a tad odd.. but then I work with PhD's who are FAAAARRRR more strange... but still credible..

Information like what was being presented seems sensational and seems like all the CRAP that's on TV.. " A HUGE Scary Spider that eats Chickens !!! later.. a 12 year old who can imitate Elvis perfectly !! "

YOU/we must admit the setup lead us to a wrongful conclusion..

At first I was siding with Sheri .. my own Bias and the Trust I've come to place in the "established ones" here on the board..

sooooo

lets keep posts like these coming and use our GOOGLE button..
If I was to post something like this .. I will put a brief Bio in the head of the post .. lesson learned ..

WE are a group of people here with a common interest and VARIED backgrounds..

**** THUD***


dammit I fell of my soap box .. ok see ya

 

[Sheri]

IT IS totally appropriate to QUESTION ones authority/ knowledge on a subject and their methods for gaining or reporting those findings ..
It happens in Scientific Journals ALL THE TIME..
Peer Review..

At first I was siding with Sheri .. my own Bias and the Trust I've come to place in the "established ones" here on the board..

sooooo

lets keep posts like these coming and use our GOOGLE button..
If I was to post something like this .. I will put a brief Bio in the head of the post .. lesson learned ..

Right, but I should have looked into it before I posted what I did... regardless of how it was presented. Especially working in the media... well... so no excuses for me.

But yeah, research first, derogate later.

 

[Crotalus]

I just watched the film aired on National Geographics. And the spider was very Theraphosa like, just my first impression. I only seen still pictures of it before.
And for the chicken eating part, well a very large spider would be able to grab a juvenile bird (chick?) and maybe the natives have used the word "chicken" while they really meant a smaller bird baby. Or something....

/Lelle

 

[Crotalus]

I have absolutely no issue with admitting my faults when they occur.
I mean... it IS so rare after all.

You mean I was right...again?

Ok, thats a internal joke. Sorry.

/Lelle

 

[Sheri]

Ha. Internal like a leaked government document from named sources.

Ferbatten Swede.

YOU have ben wrong on multiple occasions. Though I would never, ever say that in a public forum.

 

[Crotalus]

'Internal' as in internal between us. Maybe you dont use that term over there in NW.

/Lelle

 

[Vys]

The article the first link lead to made my eyes bleed. It wasn't even coherent; the writer should be shot with a heavy tranquilizer-gun.

And what was the impression I was supposed to get from reading the chat-transcript?

I feel like going into hibernation; the world doesn't make much sense anymore. Wake me up when they've found El Chupacabra.

 

[bugsnstuff]

well, the chat transcript brought forward quite a few relevent points.

did you actually download and read the actual article i posted a link to?

 

[Sheri]

'Internal' as in internal between us. Maybe you dont use that term over there in NW.

/Lelle

No, we just use it in the right context. As in once you open it up - its no longer internal.

OW... a little more aggressive, generally.

My favorite kind.

 

[Vys]

well, the chat transcript brought forward quite a few relevent points.

did you actually download and read the actual article i posted a link to?

No; I missed where you said it was half-way mandatory for understanding the points of the transcript. Whatever, perhaps I'm only in a weird mood.

 

[bugsnstuff]

ok, for all those that are interested in reading a very informative article and HAVEN'T read the whole of this thread it's here http://thebts.co.uk/aranaPol.ZIP
again!

 

[Vys]

I take it to mean that Danread's 'all' meant to include your transcript?
Why are you linking to it a third time, anyway? It's peoples' responsibility to read the whole thread before answering.

 

[G_Wright]

Right. Obviously the British are perfect.

Eh excuse me being a fellow brit I find that quite offensive. That comment could also be said for alot of other people form other continents too.

 

[Ultimate Instar]

Everyone's ignoring the really important question. When will we be able to purchase this T? (For ridiculous amounts of money, of course.)

Karen N.

 

[cacoseraph]

i reckon we call it an "inside joke" in california

 

[DR zuum]

I read the article a 10 inch could take small chicks,or possibly 2 month size but i don't believe much past that.As to working cooperatively,i know there are true spiders that do this,building large communal webs for the catching and sharing of prey.It would be interesting to have someone check it out again observe and see whats going on maybe collect a few for possible id or classification.Maybe Mr.west and Mr.Nicholas go down do a joint study,together put out some more info on it,from what the article was saying seems like its a adaptation to enviornment food source etc.

 

[Sheri]

i reckon we call it an "inside joke" in california

Ja, but you also say "reckon" thereby discounting the validity of "inside".

 

[Tescos]

It would be interesting to have someone check it out again observe and see whats going on maybe collect a few for possible id or classification.Maybe Mr.west and Mr.Nichols go down do a joint study,together put out some more info on it,from what the article was saying seems like its a adaptation to enviornment food source etc.

See the BTS Journal, Vol.20, Number 2 pages 39-50..... How to Record a Chicken Spider.... by Martin Nicholas

This is a more updated artial whichs goes some way as to tell you whats happening now.

 

[DR zuum]

See the BTS Journal, Vol.20, Number 2 pages 39-50..... How to Record a Chicken Spider.... by Martin Nicholas

This is a more updated artial whichs goes some way as to tell you whats happening now.

Thanks i appreciate the info brother i'll check it out,it is interesting,i mean if it adapted to do this thats pretty cool.

Now everybody who's a little uptight come give daddy zuum a hug and we'll all go take a shower together,apologize to each other sing,"oh what a feeling" (disco remix of course) dance the mashed potato with sheri,eat some english snickerdoodles and drink some yoo hoos.

cheers!!

 

[stewartb]

I read the article a 10 inch could take small chicks,or possibly 2 month size but i don't believe much past that

Having spoke to Martin on the subject, he did note that it was young Chickens/ chicks that were reported to have been taken. Also, don,t forget that not all species of chicken are the size of the ones you get from the supermarket.

It would be interesting to have someone check it out again observe and see whats going on maybe collect a few for possible id or classification

Martin has been there several times, and observed / collected plenty of data. Dead specimins have been collected and have been i,d ed to Genus level. Not to species as it is probably a new species.

Maybe Mr.west and Mr.Nicholas go down do a joint study,together put out some more info on it

Why would we need Mr West to go down there. There are plenty of people that are more than capable of working on this. For example Mr Nicholas.


Regards,

Stew.