Caribena Versicolor

Jones0911

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I'm thinking about getting a few Caribena (ex. Avicularia) versicolor and keeping them in the containers below....

Will these be fine?

How many holes does the top need?

How many holes do the sides need?

I know they're aboreal and will most likely stay under the cap but if i put a good amount of sphagnum moss in the container would they prefer that and maybe hide lower in the container?




Any other advice about these would be great I'm going to check the past posts on these too!
 

chrispetrie

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i would go over the top on the holes, ventilation for this species is just as important as humidity, you want it very well ventilated i would do cross ventilation on the sides, like 6 holes each side bottom to top, and as many as you can fit in the top :), just remember to let your substrate dry out between wetting it again otherwise you will get mould. you can always pipette a few drops of water on their webs to keep them hydrated :) hope this information helps you (as you can see in my picture mine thrived in these conditions)
 
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boina

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Forget about the humidity myth. I don't know how many threads on this forum have tried to dispel the myth that humidity is important for Avics. Water is. Humidity isn't. My C. versicolor and all the Ybyrapora slings are kept mostly dry with a water dish and are doing well. Slightly - just slightly - moist substrate won't hurt, but forget about humidity. If your enclosure gets so wet and the air so stagnant that you even have the possibility of getting mold there's a high possibility you also have a dying spider.
 

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as you can see in my picture mine thrived in these conditions
You are kidding, right? Unless you have two of these I think yours has just died, as you mentioned in another thread. Sooooo.... you have a C. versicolor that has not survived. That makes me think your husbandry may not be as solid as you claim and is at the very least unproven. Still, you pop in here and give advice, although you did not manage to raise your spider successfully?

Some people have a self confidence that is mind blowing.
 

The Grym Reaper

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Will these be fine?
Could work for very small slings, I wouldn't use them personally, I prefer these 330ml Lock & Lock tubs, these are set up for different species but you get the idea, for a versicolor just add some fake leaves at mid-high level to anchor webbing to.
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How many holes does the top need?
If you insist on using those then keep the holes on top to a minimum, say half a dozen (if that).

How many holes do the sides need?
Make a ring of holes all the way around the top, do the same again just above substrate level then put 3 lines of holes extending from the top ring to the bottom ring on the back half of the vial (I like to keep the front mostly clear for visibility)

I know they're arboreal and will most likely stay under the cap but if i put a good amount of sphagnum moss in the container would they prefer that and maybe hide lower in the container?
If you keep the top 20% of the enclosure free of anchor points then they generally don't web up right by the lid. I've always done this for top-opening enclosures and it's worked most of the time (my A. variegata had other ideas about how it should web up).

i would go over the top on the holes, ventilation for this species is just as important as humidity
High humidity for this species is a care sheet myth that needs to eff off and die twice because it kills them, adequate cross-ventilation is by far the most important thing, all they require in the way of moisture is slightly moist substrate and a water dish, juvies-adults can be kept on dry substrate with a large water dish.

you can always pipette a few drops of water on their webs to keep them hydrated
and lightly mist it
Bugger all that, just give it a water dish and keep it full, I have seen all 3 of mine leave their web retreats to go drink from a water dish, I don't mist any of my Tarantulas or pipette water onto their webbing and I've never had an issue, if you want to moisten the substrate then just slightly overflow the water dish and repeat when it dries out.

just remember to let your substrate dry out between wetting it again otherwise you will get mould.
as for moss, a little is a lot in that kind of enclosure, dont put it soaked inside there as again you will just have issues with mould.
Just make sure you have adequate ventilation and don't keep everything perpetually soaked, mould is usually the result of poor ventilation and too much moisture which, as stated above, will kill this species.

hope this information helps you (as you can see in my picture mine thrived in these conditions)
I don't mean to be harsh but... Erm... It didn't.
 
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basin79

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I know this is about slings but I keep my adult basically bone dry, just overflowing her water dish from time to time. Here's a pic of mine having a good sup. As @TheGrymReaper put, they will drink.


 

JohnR

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I'm thinking about getting a few Caribena (ex. Avicularia) versicolor and keeping them in the containers below....

Will these be fine?

How many holes does the top need?

How many holes do the sides need?

I know they're aboreal and will most likely stay under the cap but if i put a good amount of sphagnum moss in the container would they prefer that and maybe hide lower in the container?




Any other advice about these would be great I'm going to check the past posts on these too!
It's personal preference really... I use AMAC boxes from the container store (https://www.containerstore.com/s/gift-packaging/containers/clear-amac-boxes/12d?productId=10003497) for my sling enclosures...
 

The Grym Reaper

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Where do I buy these from?
I got mine from eBay.

It's personal preference really... I use AMAC boxes from the container store (https://www.containerstore.com/s/gift-packaging/containers/clear-amac-boxes/12d?productId=10003497) for my sling enclosures...
I like those as you can invert them which is handy for top-webbing species like Avics but they're hard to find for a decent price here and I don't fancy forking out £30 to have them shipped over from America so I use what I can get easily.
 

JohnR

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Those lids stay on without locks just by weight correct? Tight fitting?
It should be tight fitting but I buy them personally in store because it's 50/50 you get tight fit lids, some are a little loose... It can be fixed though if you put a lining piece of tape and make it tight :)
 

JohnR

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I got mine from eBay.



I like those as you can invert them which is handy for top-webbing species like Avics but they're hard to find for a decent price here and I don't fancy forking out £30 to have them shipped over from America so I use what I can get easily.
I hear you... Sometimes there are stuff (non T related) I'd like to buy but they're only available overseas and shipping will cost you an arm and a leg...
 

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Those vials are poor. You can't see into them, a bad idea IMO. Just get some Thornton vials, and drill some holes.
 

Jones0911

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Ok I pulled the trigger on this order and I'm getting 0.0.2 ½ inch Caribena Versicolors with 1/4" Brazilian Black and White (N. coloratovillosus) freebie...

Currently I have 0.0.1 N. Coloratovillosus so hopefully these and the C. Versicolors will be opposite sexes.

These are the type of containers I'll be using until maybe 2-3 inches ( how many inches should i rehouse after if i use these?):



I also wanted help with size comparison, are Caribena versicolor adults about the same size as adult Tapinauchenius cupreus?

Below is a photo to help for size comparison....this is my mature adult female that recently shed a few weeks back and gave me a sac back in January.... I am asking about size comparison because if the two species are the same size as adults I have the perfect enclosures for them as adults.

if theyre bigger than the species below, I have a taller wider adult container for them later on in life:



Once again thanks for ALL the help!!!
 

Ztesch

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Where did you buy them from and how much? I'm seriously considering getting one..
 

Ztesch

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The money isnt even the real determing factor. I just like to get the best bang for my buck. I gotta somehow get my girl who I live with to sign off on me getting another T :(
 

Jones0911

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I inboxed you a lot of information about breeders so just read the information I sent you and if you have anymore questions you can ask me or anyone else on these boards and we will be happy to help you!!
 
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