So, I don't understand the difference. Well, obviously one is raised and bred in captivity and the other once roamed the land, free. I just don't understand why more people choose captive bred over wild caught (besides the obvious, like not affecting natures way). Can someone enlighten me or am I thinking about it too much? Is it just the obvious reasons or are there actually benefits? Are captive bred more adaptable?
Captive Bred or Wild Caught??!? Explain someone...
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Captive bred are usually healthier because they have not been scooped out of the jungle/desert, thrown in a deli cup and mailed around the world to people like us. That and they are better if you want to handle your T because they have grown up with human interaction since they were hatched. Not saying that every CB T is handleable but it helps. Kinda like the difference between a stray dog and your neighbors dog. The stray is gonna have mange, be mean, have fleas and ticks, and your neighbors dog is gonna be clean and nice. But they both posess the ability to bite the heck out of you if irritated.
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Well first off Cb t's don't carry those nasty parasites like Wc ones might have. Also Wc t's go through alot of stress being shipped and caught and can get injured thats y its better off getting a Cb t to avoid all of that.
With wild caught you are decreasing wild populations that in alot of cases no one really knows how big those populations are to begin with. When this is done there is always a chance of over harvesting.Plus wild caught T.s have more of a chance of harboring parasites. Also if it is an adult you really have know idea how old it is.Depending on the species it could already be 10 years old or more for some females.
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While I agree with a lot you've said, something to remember is that there is no proven fact that a tarantula possesses the ability to be 'tamed' or benefits from the frequency of being held. Their 'brains' are literally a small cluster of cells, and can't be compared to a mammal, or dog's, brain.
Sometimes it's just the luck of the draw on when they decide to be friendly or not. It can change day to day. They don't remember you or being held, and can't really be classically conditioned.
Personally, I prefer captive bred because
A)It supports the tarantula hobbyist field
B)They are usually healthier because of regulated feeding/watering and less chance of mites and parasites.
C)It lets the population and natural growth of tarantulas continue without being disturbed. (Prevention.)
D)It's a heck of a lot easier than going and catching them
It's all makes sense...\Personally, I prefer captive bred because
A)It supports the tarantula hobbyist field
B)They are usually healthier because of regulated feeding/watering and less chance of mites and parasites.
C)It lets the population and natural growth of tarantulas continue without being disturbed. (Prevention.)
D)It's a heck of a lot easier than going and catching them
I never thought about them being shipped around the world and all. I have honestly never noticed when I've bought online. I think I'll start paying more attention i suppose. All very good reasons to buy CB, my favorite being not to disturb the natural habitat.
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Captive bred purchases basically supports breeders that devote their time to ensuring a ready supply of your favorite tarantulas. There are however a few things I have learned. Not all tarantulas are actually captive bred just because someone told you they were. Some may actually be captive born but naturally bred in the wild before the mother was caught. It is true that captive bred tarantulas have a tendency to do better than wild caught and I believe part of it has to do with the environmental conditions. It is difficult to reproduce the exact conditions a wild caught tarantula is used to so some do not fare as well because they are lacking something where as captive bred can adapt easier to the artificial climates we raise them in.
Probably one of the most controversial but impossible to prove theories is that a species cannot exist by captive breeding alone. It has been said that continuous breedings of captive bred tarantulas without the introduction of wild caught specimens from time to time will eventually lead to extinction of the species. The reason it's impossible to prove is because wild caught tarantulas enter the hobby in so many different ways that there will never be a control group that is purely captive to find out.
Probably one of the most controversial but impossible to prove theories is that a species cannot exist by captive breeding alone. It has been said that continuous breedings of captive bred tarantulas without the introduction of wild caught specimens from time to time will eventually lead to extinction of the species. The reason it's impossible to prove is because wild caught tarantulas enter the hobby in so many different ways that there will never be a control group that is purely captive to find out.
I don't see how that can be. Spiders have instincts that can't be taken away. They don't see how other spiders act and mimic it. Of course i could be wrong but i don't see a CB tarantula forgetting how to be a spider because he dosen't have a WC tarantula to watch and imitate
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I do support CB purchase. However, several species are very hard to breed. Many hard to breed imports go to the commercial market and are sold to non-breeders. How many of you thrill at the P. metalica a species that was WC imports only a few years ago before breeders got them to the market. How about the new Australian T's got one? Want one? Nearly every T in the market began at some point as a WC import, the breeding aspect is much newer that the hobby itself. We wow and ahh over GBB, pokies, cobalt blues, singapore blue, talk about how pretty they are and how we wish we had one, then come here and complain about WC? Yes, support CB, purchase CB, support breeders and give them a thumbs up for every successful sac produced and every single sling that survives to adulthood. But remember that NEARLY every single T on the market here in the US or anywhere else is or has a history of being WC. Think about that next time you want P. Metallica, Green Bottle Blue, Avicularia vesicolor, Plesiophrictus sp. "India", Cyriopagopus sp. blue. Think about why the Mexican red-knee is protected. It's okay to be supportive of CB even laudable, but to be anti-WC at the same time seems a bit much when you look at what we have and want in our own collections. Something to think about before you down someone for their WC purchase.
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Well, I did say
Most of the answers did revolve what I already thought... I don't think I tell anyone off, I just criticized you for wanting to kill off your T for preservation. If you can find me all of these times I tell people off, I'll admit fault.
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I have to give my 2cents for dannax, EVERY post I've read of his is has been humble.
I challenge you Boa to prove the same on your posts, compare smart tail comments
Alittle thin skinned perhaps
I challenge you Boa to prove the same on your posts, compare smart tail comments
Alittle thin skinned perhaps
You had no clue what I was saying on that thread but still critisized. Shame on you.
And on this thread wouldn't any pet keeper know the obvious answers?
I'm sorry. Being nice isn't very fun or a good way to get you're way.I have to give my 2cents for dannax, EVERY post I've read of his is has been humble.
I challenge you Boa to prove the same on your posts, compare smart tail comments
Alittle thin skinned perhaps
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Thats the answer I expected, have a good day sir
Your thread asked the best way to end the life and preserve your MM because you didn't want to breed him because you couldn't be sure of the specific species. People tried to have you post pictures to help fully identify but you insisted that you didn't need any of it. From my experience here, everyone likes to help.
Apparently, you've got a chip on your shoulder because I don't go around talking like a smart a$$ or telling anyone off. I just expressed my opinion which was;
Shame on you...
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I did hear WC T. blondi or other larger spiders were bigger than CB ones. Not sure if there's any truth to this though.
Most tarantulas from PetCrap are WC, too.
Most tarantulas from PetCrap are WC, too.
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You had NO right to judge. I asked a perfectly valid question that you didn't know the response to so you shouldn't have replied so arrogantly. You have no right to judge. YOU CAN NOT ID EVERY ANIMAL TO THE SPECIES LEVEL! Ask any scientist. I ID'd them as far as possible and that's that.
Yep you were right, SARCASMISM!Thats the answer I expected, have a good day sir