Thanks sir.. yes ill wait for the pros to ID this.. ^^That's a bit difficult to say..When I see the shape of the vesicle (venom sac if you wish) it reminds me more of Heterometrus. Instar 4 "emps" should already have some granulations on their chela (claws) and as yours has them smooth, I think it's a Heterometrus sp., but I am not THAT knowledgeable on Scorpionidae, so let's wait what the pro's say about it....
you sure sir? i just wait until it molts to 5i.. i think its to young to ID this.. there's a lot look alike to Heterometrus and Pandimus..I definately think Heterometrus Sp.,becuase of the claw shape.
thank you sir! i will wait until it molts to 5i.. he's 4i by the way.. thanks a lot sir! ^^Imo, yeah, that's a Emperor scorpling. I have about 20 at around that size. Same ridges along the chela(5,6?), same look, the vesicle still pretty elongated at that age. Same hint of granulation on that chela as the ones I have also. Shape, size and granulation of the chela change a lot with every molt when it comes to emps. I've had broods of emps, and a few Heterometrus sps broods. It's easy to tell the diff once you take a look in person, with the sps I have anyway. So my guess is that it's an emp. The chela look kind of smooth but not smooth enough to be one of the common heteros in the hobby imo.
I think it's an emp too. It just hasn't developed those typical granulations yet.4i, yeah I saw that. "5,6" I was referring to ridges on the chela, see them on the outside?, common in Heterometrus early instars too though. I get the feeling there has not been in-depth study of early instar differences between species within each genus. I think most taxonomists only work with adults because adults better express final characteristics of the species, and what has mattered even recently is simply IDing and documenting species in the Heterometrus genus. I guess taxonomists would have to get scorplings from positively ID'd individuals to do an in-depth study which would be time consuming, maybe something to do later. I don't think it's been done(?) You have an emp, I'd bet a lot of money on it.
Emps do have some granulations on the dorsal side of the chela, from as young as instar 3. It is true that the granulations patterns develop further as they age and the patterns are complete when adult. This counts for both Pandinus and Heterometrus. Because of this, idenfication of juveniles of both genera is very difficult, and in some cases impossible. Also, there is intraspecific and interspecific variation in granulation patterns especially in juveniles, this means that these characters are not that significant as they would be in adults.I think it's an emp too. It just hasn't developed those typical granulations yet.
it is obviously an pandinus imperator in just one glimps, no worries my friend... to those guys who said it is heterometrous sp. better research more... fyi it is easy to differentiate het sp to pandinus sp. especially when thier already 3i... i have emps and hets in the past years.. so dont worry it is 100% p.emp ^_^
lol notice he doesn't cite anything in particular as to why he thinks it's an emp. It's as if he thinks that no one else has had both too, I'm not ruling out an emp but like I said at this point it's got more of a lean to a het claw and granulation wise. Next molt will definitely tell.it is obviously an pandinus imperator in just one glimps, no worries my friend... to those guys who said it is heterometrous sp. better research more... fyi it is easy to differentiate het sp to pandinus sp. especially when thier already 3i... i have emps and hets in the past years.. so dont worry it is 100% p.emp ^_^