C. Exilicauda died then comes back to life?

[Predator]

Earlier today I noticed one of my exilicauda's laying fully submerged in a water dish. I figured she must of drown. I picked her up with my tongs and laid her next to the dish out of the water. She was lifeless and I picked her up and nudged her a few times. I didnt think the water dish was that deep and figured its time to add a little gravel in there so it doesnt happen again. I didnt have time to remove her from the tank and I have heard a few stories of scorps kinda just coming back to life so I left her be. I come home a few hours later and shes gone! Shes out and about in the tank. Scorps are surely some odd creatures. I would advise anyone who ever thinks their scorp may of died to at least wait 48 hours before you remove it. Just imagine if I tossed her in the garbage.

 

[Malhavoc's]

I've heard of a thread here even read it too! -imagion that- do a search one Scorp was thought to be dead for 24 hrs and the owner was going to autopsy and it twitched! lol Scorps are amazing creatures

 

[Predator]

She finally came out of hiding now. Looks like it was a fight, shes missing the very tip of one of her front legs. Also another one seems broken toward the bottom. Im thinking she was stung by another and somehow made it to the water dish where the other scorps wont go into so she didnt get eaten. Shes not gravid but mature so it could of been a mean mate or just a plain old fight. She was either very smart by jumping into the water dish or just lucky.

 

[Malhavoc's]

Could be, Does their venom have a paralizing effect? Sorry to hear about the fight are you going to seperate her until she heals?

 

[Predator]

Yea it seems when they sting each other it will paralyze them. During mating I think the male will sting the female to calm her down. As far as I know it doesnt kill them but makes them easy prey to get munched on. She seems to be walking about ok, but seems a little shook up but the tank is huge for just 5 of them so I dont think I need to seperate her. Im still watching over her but will remove her if I think shes going to be an easy target for the rest. Since shes mature she wont molt so she has to live with the wounds unfortunately. But on the bright side the wounds are not severe and shes sitting right now claws open waiting for a cricket to wander by.

 

[Galapoheros]

That's amazing! This happened to me today with a baby centipede I have. But there was another factor. I'll tell it when I know the final outcome. It's unusual. A good feeling to see that scorpion come back I bet. I think the key is to dry the spiracles and give them a slight breeze. Seems like the spiracles would have a waterproofing quality about them when out of the water...do they?

 

[fscorpion]

Earlier today I noticed one of my exilicauda's laying fully submerged in a water dish. I figured she must of drown. I picked her up with my tongs and laid her next to the dish out of the water. She was lifeless and I picked her up and nudged her a few times. I didnt think the water dish was that deep and figured its time to add a little gravel in there so it doesnt happen again. I didnt have time to remove her from the tank and I have heard a few stories of scorps kinda just coming back to life so I left her be. I come home a few hours later and shes gone! Shes out and about in the tank. Scorps are surely some odd creatures. I would advise anyone who ever thinks their scorp may of died to at least wait 48 hours before you remove it. Just imagine if I tossed her in the garbage.

When you put insects, arachnids or some other non aquatic invertebrates in water, they cannot breath, and their lungs (bronchi’s-as they have no lungs) fill up with water and they cannot expel their CO2 which acts like an anesthetic. So the animal looks like dead and if put out of water it can revive in a few hours. However, if kept in water too long, of course, it will suffocate, like any other creature, its just that they can remain without oxygen for an incredibly long period. That's not just with scorpions, but many, many other invertebrates...

 

[Empi]

My emp got out one time and I found her frozen in my garage. I thoughht she was dead. About an hour of being back in her tank she came back to life.

 

[Eurypterid]

I had the same thing happen once with two C. gracilis, the only two scorps I ever named - I called them Lazurus and Jesus.

 

[schizojoe]

From what I've known a scorpion can stay under water for 2 days.. also can be frozen in a block of ice then thawed later coming/resuming back to life.. there's documentation.. just a coupled things I picked up in the subject while reasearching when I got into scorps.. but I guess you can't believe everything that you read?

If I'm wrong prove it.. I like being proved wrong.. better yet I like to see people shout.. and give their point of view.. there's always the ones who think they're always right.. where are you?

Haha.. laters

 

[Predator]

I havent heard of anything about them staying under water for a few days but I heard about the block of ice thing on the discovery channel. I also heard on there that they found scorps running about at some nuclear test sites not long after the test. I think they said they could possibly outlive cockroaches during a nuclear war.

 

[fscorpion]

I havent heard of anything about them staying under water for a few days but I heard about the block of ice thing on the discovery channel. I also heard on there that they found scorps running about at some nuclear test sites not long after the test. I think they said they could possibly outlive cockroaches during a nuclear war.

Well, many invertabrates can survive being frozen for a few hours, but not if the temperature is under -25C...I am not sure they can survive under water for 2 days

 

[fusion121]

I'm unsure about the freezing thing, I'm inclined to believe it’s untrue as freezing and unfreezing a scorpion is likely to result in the cellular rupturing etc. you'd see if you froze a mammal, and they don’t come back to life . Though I'm tempted to buy an emperor just to see what happens. However they can deal with being very cold for quite a while.

They can last a long time (24h+) under water due to their incredibly slow metabolic rate (one of the slowest in the animal kingdom); they use very little oxygen while remaining still.

Scorpions are unusually resistant to (ionizing) radiation, probably due to the structure of the cuticle. They’d cope well in a nuclear war.

 

[fscorpion]

I'm unsure about the freezing thing, I'm inclined to believe it’s untrue as freezing and unfreezing a scorpion is likely to result in the cellular rupturing etc. you'd see if you froze a mammal, and they don’t come back to life . Though I'm tempted to buy an emperor just to see what happens. However they can deal with being very cold for quite a while.

They can last a long time (24h+) under water due to their incredibly slow metabolic rate (one of the slowest in the animal kingdom); they use very little oxygen while remaining still.

Scorpions are unusually resistant to (ionizing) radiation, probably due to the structure of the cuticle. They’d cope well in a nuclear war.

Believe me, they can easily survive without any damage at all freezing from 0 to -5C. That is not something I heard from my grandma, I am an entomologist and I have seen it many times...You can't compare invertabrates with mammals! They have completely diferent cell structures...

 

[G. Carnell]

Hey
at my Cousins house in Corsica, where there are LOTS of E.flavicaudis, my cousins boyfriend tryed it, to see whether its true, and it did survive!!

maybe it only works with temperate species though (not p.imp..)

 

[fusion121]

Believe me, they can easily survive without any damage at all freezing from 0 to -5C. That is not something I heard from my grandma, I am an entomologist and I have seen it many times...You can't compare invertabrates with mammals! They have completely diferent cell structures...

Ok thats interesting, so is it actual freezing in the technical sense with all water in their bodies changing state?

 

[fscorpion]

Ok thats interesting, so is it actual freezing in the technical sense with all water in their bodies changing state?

The invertebrates have much less water in their cells, their cells are also of different constitution...some have antifreeze mechanisms, but I think they can even really freeze, probably not completely, but they really look like ice cubes and when they melt they slowly become alive again...that's very interesting...

 

[fusion121]

Hi
Yes I knew that they have mechanisms that can prevent freezing at even sub-zero temperatures, but that’s slightly different to the cell fluid actually freezing and then functioning normally on thawing, is there definitive proof they can actually do that?

 

[fscorpion]

Hi
Yes I knew that they have mechanisms that can prevent freezing at even sub-zero temperatures, but that’s slightly different to the cell fluid actually freezing and then functioning normally on thawing, is there definitive proof they can actually do that?

Well, yes, many have different antifreeze substances (like ethylene), but there are also the ones that don’t and their cells freeze, but the water amount in their cells must be lowed as possible, so it won't blow up. That is how insects prepare for the severe winters and after that in spring they are heavily dehydrated and need to get a good drink. Those are incredible animals! Some plants do the same, some cactuses for example can withstand incredibly low temperatures and they accomplish that by expelling water from their cells and it works great with some species living in Canada!!!

 

[Empi]

I'm unsure about the freezing thing, I'm inclined to believe you'd see if you froze a mammal, and they don’t come back to life .

I have to just say, if you freeze a mammal they will not come back to life. But I had a goldfish when I was little and my dad would put it in the freezer when we went on vacation for a few weeks. When we got home he just took it out and put the litte ice cube with the fish in it back in the fish bowl and it would thaw out and start swimming again. :? So some animals can do that. I believe that it would probly work with a scorpion. I have to say though the goldfish in the freezer does not always work though.