Bumba Horrida Urticating Hairs

[itchyhands]

Yeah I didn’t know much about this new t to expect strong urticating hairs like t blondi but maybe you made the correct choice . I just like my new worlds too much to give them up , I may get more old world in the future don’t have any right now. Ow rock !
Do Bumba Horrida hairs burn bad how would you describe them like 1000 burning needles like nhandu/lasiodora hairs? The after itch is Just as bad as the pain. Did you keep it inn a room with a running ceiling fan ?

The hairs feel exactly like wood splinters. Then I had burning and tingling for about an hour. It wasn't bad and didn't cause a rash, but there were so many of them and I'm still feeling them even though I cleaned everything and vaccuumed the whole area the T had been in. Definitely not 1000 burning needles, it's probably honestly mild as far as the hairs go but the sheer number of them and small size made them go everywhere. I had the T's sitting right next to my PC and they were getting on me from just being next to the cage.

Yup our room also has a ceiling fan and A/C making everything worse. Very small apartment. I just hope my dog doesn't get any too badly.

For now I have an N. Incei and a P. Cambridgei and that's good enough for me. If I get more confident I might try an Irminia, they are gorgeous but they have a mean reputation. Maybe I'll just get into isopods instead lol.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

The hairs feel exactly like wood splinters. Then I had burning and tingling for about an hour. It wasn't bad and didn't cause a rash, but there were so many of them and I'm still feeling them even though I cleaned everything and vaccuumed the whole area the T had been in. Definitely not 1000 burning needles, it's probably honestly mild as far as the hairs go but the sheer number of them and small size made them go everywhere. I had the T's sitting right next to my PC and they were getting on me from just being next to the cage.

Yup our room also has a ceiling fan and A/C making everything worse. Very small apartment. I just hope my dog doesn't get any too badly.

For now I have an N. Incei and a P. Cambridgei and that's good enough for me. If I get more confident I might try an Irminia, they are gorgeous but they have a mean reputation. Maybe I'll just get into isopods instead lol.

I used to have a few p Irminia never saw a threat pose once . It’s the luck of the draw .. you can keep iso the same time , or even some pet roach species look cool. Loads of stuff other then urt hairs to deal with ..
I doubt I’ll get the nhandu that spawned my urt thread again .. runaway!! I repeat runaway!!

 

[SpookySpooder]

Today I rehomed the tarantulas I had with hairs to a local collector and got a N. Incei from him.

I think if anyone in the future is reading these threads and they have a lot of concerns about the urticating hairs of new world species they should give them a miss. The Bumba Horrida had extremely tiny UH that easily slipped through the holes and small cracks in a tarantula crib and were just getting all over the place. They weren't extremely irritating like the hairs of other species, but their tiny nature made them far more likely to get all over the house and me. Really ask yourself if you can spend every day feeling like you've got splinters and worrying about them getting in your eyes, nose, or your dogs eyes or nose. For me the T's weren't worth that. For others they are worth it. But it's definitely something to really consider and take seriously.

I support your decision to rehome the Bumba. Why keep it if you won't enjoy it? Neoholothele incei is a great alternative to keep. Remember, you can always keep trading specimens until you get calm ones that don't kick as often. I know personally I don't mind keeping the defensive spooders.

A little bit of spice makes them quite nice to interact with.

P. irminia is a great species with no Uricating hairs, but reserve that one until you have a little more experience with dealing with potentially unpredictable behavior.

Would you care for a list of non-hair T's?

 

[itchyhands]

I support your decision to rehome the Bumba. Why keep it if you won't enjoy it? Neoholothele incei is a great alternative to keep. Remember, you can always keep trading specimens until you get calm ones that don't kick as often. I know personally I don't mind keeping the defensive spooders.

A little bit of spice makes them quite nice to interact with.

P. irminia is a great species with no Uricating hairs, but reserve that one until you have a little more experience with dealing with potentially unpredictable behavior.

Would you care for a list of non-hair T's?

I would love a list of non-hair T's !

It would probably help future readers too.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

I would love a list of non-hair T's !

It would probably help future readers too.

Yeah I had a whole thread based on them if you look my posts up. I haven’t checked yet . Because I was going to slowly phase out nw but now I’ve decided just to avoid the one nhandu or anything like it . Chromatis don’t bother me as bad , feels like it’s in wrong genus.

I would love a list of non-hair T's !

It would probably help future readers too.

here although the pricey ones may be missing.

Best affordable Ts that lack urticating hairs? Nw/ow

which new worlds lack hairs ?all mine have hairs im alergic too. I know old world don’t have hairs but some aren’t affordable or too rare to find. Preferably stuff under a high price point. Although you can suggest expensive Ts just as a wishlist bases. :angelic: a few I might get again lost to...

arachnoboards.com

 

[SpookySpooder]

Well--first we gotta remember, every tarantula has setae... so it's not like there are any that are bald or lack hairs.

It's more like some don't rely on their hairs for defense so they won't really kick them at you, they'll still have them and drop them here and there.

Temperament also varies from individual to individual, you might just get the most defensive member of the species who does nothing but kick until they're bald or one that just doesn't care because it has realized you are not a threat to it.

OW species have setae, but all lack the uricating hairs from what I understand. There might be exceptions I'm unaware of as I don't know all of the thousands of species in the hobby. Because they lack the uricating hairs, these species are more likely to run and hide, as well as bite.

Here are some from personal experience:

Avicularia is a genus that comes to mind. These beautiful arboreals have a lot of hair, but rarely ever kick them. They prefer to run. Though they will rub their hairs on you if you handle them though. They also line their web with hairs.

I have heard that the Psalmopoeus genus lacks uricating hairs, but I see setae on my P. irminia. They might not be uricating hairs though, I've picked them up barehanded without any irritation.

Hapolopus formosus is a species that also will just run off instead. Every specimen I've had prefers to retreat to the burrow. I've never seen one kick.

Neoholothele incei, don't have uricating hairs.
Holothele longipes, same as above.

My OBTs never kick. Because they're OWs!

Below is a list of genera that other members have reported don't have hairs:

Acanthopelma
Catumiri
Dolichothele
Euthycaelus
Guyruita
Hemiercus
Heterothele
Holothele
Ischnoculus
Neoholothele
Oligoxystre
Proshapalopus
Psalmopoeus
Pseudoclamoris
Pseudoligoxystre
Reichligia
Sickius
Schismatothele
Tapinauchenius
Trichopelma

I will be quite upset if there is a sticky with this information that I missed.

If anybody knows of something they can add, or if I made an error with the list, feel free to comment.

 

[Wenzer]

The genus Amazonius includes at least 3 species lacking U-hairs on the opisthosoma. There is a fourth species (Amazonius giovaninii) that is a fairly recent discovery and the taxonomic reference I have seen doesn't explicitly say they lack U-hairs, but I would hesitantly assume it's a cladistic trait for the genus... Maybe someone else has more info and can verify?

A. germani is ex Pseudoclamoris gigas, and prior to that was ex Tapinauchenius gigas (just for reference).

A. burgessi is ex Pseudoclamoris burgessi

A. elenae is ex Pseudoclamoris elenae, which is ex Tapinauchenius elenae.

Just wanted to add those prior names since they're still commonly sold under those. Although you already listed Tapinauchenius and Pseudoclamoris in your list so it may not have been necessary lol... But I've already typed it and won't bother deleting it

 

[Legal Old Me]

I got a face full when I unboxed my new B.horrida this afternoon, I just took an antihistamine and was ok, I usually take them daily in summer, having this species just means taking them all year for me, hoping she won’t flick as much now she is in her enclosure and I can just leave her alone though

 

[Arachnophobphile]

Hi everyone

I'm a new keeper that was really excited to keep tarantulas, so I kind of jumped the gun and have ended up with 5. I started out with a 1/4 inch Cyriocosmus elegans and two 1/2 inch Dwarf Hapalopus sp Colombias in the hopes one would age out female. They immediately sealed themselves away and I haven't seen them much since, so I decided I wanted something bigger and a confirmed female, and I also wanted something that was a little less beginner-y.

I got a 1/2 inch Psalmopoues Cambridgei and a 2" female Bumba Horrida. The Bumba is beautiful and was calm when I transferred her, but she is clearly stressed about being rehomed, and has kicked off all the hairs from her abdomen and completely lined her enclosure. These hairs seem to get on me even if I just open the door to her enclosure. My hands have been stinging. I'm now worried that I can't handle the urticating hairs. I have sensitive skin and honestly have enough problems already, I'm chronically ill and just don't need this tbh.

I asked about urticating hairs before jumping into the hobby and everyone reassured me that it wasn't a big deal and they don't get on you that easily. In the info I could find about the Bumba, people said they didn't kick hairs often and that they were usually docile and good for beginners, I have found conflicting information about their hair. She is docile but her abdomen is bald today and I just got her yesterday. I'm embarrassed to be feeling like I want to get rid of her already. She cost $125 and I feel like I made a dumb mistake. I added more soil and isopods to her enclosure today because they came late in the mail, and even though I wore gloves I still got itchy hands somehow.

I really like the Cambridgei and I kind of wish I just started with that. Are my dwarf tarantulas going to be like this too when they're bigger? Do you guys get hair on you every time you open your T's cage to do feedings and water? Do you guys think I should get rid of her or will it get better if she has time to settle ?

You got bad info and before you ever bought NW tarantulas with UrS you should of done more research.

If you used surgeon gloves to interact with the T's enclosure those don't work. UrS can penetrate those type of gloves. I learned that before I ever bought my first T.

Don't ever play down UrS. Most people focus on getting them on their skin. Be warned, protect your eyes at all cost that's the real danger with UrS. Second would be getting them in your respiratory system last is on your skin.

I'm highly sensitive to UrS myself. Only got some on me once because I forgot to put my gloves on. I paid for that and that was when I first started out.

I use garden rubber gloves I picked up from Home Depot that go past the wrist. They are a little thicker than surgeon gloves I suggest you get some.

I have one tarantula that sprayed all her UrS at me during a rehouse when she was 5 inches. Rehoused as I wanted her in a cleaner setup as the original she was in for years.

One word, technique......even though she kicked her abdomen completely bald at me all her UrS were contained and didn't go on me and all over the place.

 

[itchyhands]

You got bad info and before you ever bought NW tarantulas with UrS you should of done more research.

If you used surgeon gloves to interact with the T's enclosure those don't work. UrS can penetrate those type of gloves. I learned that before I ever bought my first T.

Don't ever play down UrS. Most people focus on getting them on their skin. Be warned, protect your eyes at all cost that's the real danger with UrS. Second would be getting them in your respiratory system last is on your skin.

I'm highly sensitive to UrS myself. Only got some on me once because I forgot to put my gloves on. I paid for that and that was when I first started out.

I use garden rubber gloves I picked up from Home Depot that go past the wrist. They are a little thicker than surgeon gloves I suggest you get some.

I have one tarantula that sprayed all her UrS at me during a rehouse when she was 5 inches. Rehoused as I wanted her in a cleaner setup as the original she was in for years.

One word, technique......even though she kicked her abdomen completely bald at me all her UrS were contained and didn't go on me and all over the place.

I rehomed all the ones I had with UHs and now I just have a N. incei sling and a P. Cambridgei and I'm quite happy with that choice. My Psalmopoeus is about 3 inches now and he's kind of crazy but he's very visible and a great display T.

 

[Arachnophobphile]

Nice

Psalmopoeus genus do not have UrS but I'm guessing you might already know that.