I put the male in with the female and he ran over and lifted her and did his thing. She struggled the entire time but inserts were good. My other male went for the tap around the cage awhile route which didn't work as well with her. In the end both males were bred with her and ended up with 13 seperate occasions of insertions. She hasn't dropped a sac yet but with that many insertions.....it has to happen eventually lol. Pairing really wasn't difficult. BUT every spider is different......I have seen videos of a female vagans chasing and chasing a poor male. just have tongs in hand and a catch cup.