Bothriurus sp?

[Oski121]

Hi does anyone here keep these?

thanks

 

[VictorHernandez]

Seeing that there are care sheets and some for sell online, I'd imagine yes, it is kept by some.

 

[2nscorpx]

Bothriurus bonariensis, B. bonariensis ex Uruguay, B. bonariensis “dark” morph, B. bonariensis “red” morph, B. burmeisteri, B. chilensis, B. coriaceus, B. dumayi, B. keyserlingi, B. picunche, B. cf. rochensis are all in the hobby circuit....

 

[callum b]

Bothriurus bonariensis, B. bonariensis ex Uruguay, B. bonariensis “dark” morph, B. bonariensis “red” morph, B. burmeisteri, B. chilensis, B. coriaceus, B. dumayi, B. keyserlingi, B. picunche, B. cf. rochensis are all in the hobby circuit....

Has anyone ever had much success with scorpions from this genus? They turn up every so often, everyone buys them and then you never here of them again until the next import arrives, and the cycle repeats itself.

It's obvious that many of them are kept incorrectly from the start (usually to hot and/or humid it seems), but surely there must be a few out there who have got it right and managed to get them to last more than a few months, maybe even bred them? There must be at least one German scorpion nut who is obsessed with these attractive little scorpions and has had success with them ?

 

[KDiiX]

I keep the B.coriaceus for about 6-9 month. It's a gravid female so I hope she give me a birth soon. But I think they are hard to get them giving birth because say have pretty low night temperatures in they're habitats. But if I'm successful with them I'll let you now ;-)

 

[2nscorpx]

But if I'm successful with them I'll let you now ;-)

Me too please.

 

[Michiel]

Most people keep them wrong, hot and humid, bevause they are from south american depending on the species, they can come from temperate regions, but also from very arid and cold regions. So the big trick is to know exactly where they are from and to reproduce their microhabitat. It is difficult and many die off, also in the care of experienced keepers. Most of the species kept in Europe originate from Chili.
I keep B.dumayi and some Brachistosternus sp. I keep them at room temps 15-18 celsius, only spray a bit once every other week, or give them a small bottle cap. If you live in a hot climate, you would need to keep them in a cellar to keep them cold enough....

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[Oski121]

Thanks for the reply here they are,

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they are fiesty, and burrow alot,

 

[2nscorpx]

I've never seen the first one; can you maybe post more pictures? The second looks like a Brachistosternus spp.

 

[Michiel]

Where did you buy these, Oski? They look like the Brachistosternus species "yellow" I bought from BTBE in Germany...
That is a female in your pic....
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[callum b]

Have Bugzuk botched another order.......??

I think Oski bought them as some kind of Bothriurus sp.

 

[Oski121]

They were sent to me as Brachistosternus spp Chile . I wondered if anyone knew exactly what sp they may be,

I wondered if they both looked the same sp? and also sex of them?

I have took some better pictures Thanks
The first one again, more slender then the other one and has not burroed yet,

The second one which is bigger and more stocky also has a shiny colour/gloss compared to the first one

I hope the pictures are better thanks

---------- Post added 12-08-2012 at 05:25 PM ----------

Have Bugzuk botched another order.......??

I think Oski bought them as some kind of Bothriurus sp.

My mistake I was ordering Bothriurus but changed to Brachistosternus I got confused with names.
These were sent to me as Brachistosternus sp chile.
Sorry I put the wrong name in the title .
Thanks.

 

[Oski121]

bump..........

 

[Michiel]

Hi Oski,

The first specimen is a male, the second a female. I had a one male and two females, but my male was killed by one of the females when I left it overnight after a mating.. so leaving it overnight is a no no, free advice...You need to watch them when you try to mate them, because they are nervous, defensive species, also towards eachother...
Check out the internal side of the chela of the male, there you see a structure called the "internal apophysis".....females lack this structure.
I tried to identy it, which is not an easy thing with just one male, and it seems related to B.cepedai Ojanguren Affilastro, Augusto, Pizarro-Araya & Mattoni, 2007 and that is all I can say about its identity at the moment. I contacted the Chilean exporter and I learned the areas where the were collected. I will ask a South American colleague for help with the ID and I recently sent him some pics.

regards, Michiel

 

[2nscorpx]

I tried to identy it, which is not an easy thing with just one male, and it seems related to B.cepedai Ojanguren Affilastro, Augusto, Pizarro-Araya & Mattoni, 2007 and that is all I can say about its identity at the moment. I contacted the Chilean exporter and I learned the areas where the were collected. I will ask a South American colleague for help with the ID and I recently sent him some pics.

regards, Michiel

Hi Michiel,

Is the work being done on the ID for the public's ears?

Cordially,
Tuhin

 

[Michiel]

That depends if it proves to be a known species, I will share the id as soon as I know it, but if it proves to be a undescribed species I cannot share any info untill it is properly described...

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[Oski121]

Bump! Hi

I was wondering if both of the scorps here were the looking as if they were from the same sp?

thanks

 

[Michiel]

Well, if that was the case, you wouldn't be asking that question

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[Michiel]

They might prove to be different species, I can't say for sure. My female is also darker than my male...This is a very complex genus with the majority of the species discovered in the last decades. At location A species 1 may live and three miles further a similar looking species 2...
The male seems to belong to B.cepedai.

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[Oski121]

Hey Michiel

Thanks for the informative replies they are appreciated alot.

I was thinking of putting them together , but im concerned as Im not sure of age and same sp. so do not want to risk anything happening to them,

They are interesting sp, they can burrow/dignvery quickly, and if disturbed they will play dead, and not move for ages,

Thanks again,