Blue Tarantula

[Poec54]

Brown tarantula - $20, Blue tarantula - $200 :laugh:

Color usually ain't cheap.

 

[scott99]

Pterinopelma sazimai

have you ever seen the Pterinopelma sazimai, I think it bluest tarantulas out there.

 

[klawfran3]

It's ironic in a way, because blue tarantulas tend to attract the most attention from novices, yet most tend to be unsuitable for beginners.

I always thought it was the orange ones that do this...:coffee:

 

[BobGrill]

I always thought it was the orange ones that do this...:coffee:

That's another reason why GBB is he best choice. Blue AND orange. [emoji4]

 

[MrDave]

Brown tarantula - $20, Blue tarantula - $200 :laugh:

Completely unrelated question: Is hair colouring toxic in any way to brown tarantulas?

 

[Poec54]

Completely unrelated question: Is hair colouring toxic in any way to brown tarantulas?

Only her hairdresser knows for sure.

 

[awiec]

as coldblood said, thrixs are great, which if you can find them they would be the one to get. As for budget blue ts the gbb and avics are generally a pretty noticeable blue when they hit the juvie stage (A.versicolor does start off blue but morphs into a rainbow). There is also A.seemanni Blue Color Form, though there is some debate on whether they keep their blue when adults or not, mine still has hers but prefers to dig and comes out only at night.

 

[borotasinisa]

Why are there so many blue tarantulas or part blue? I know there is an answer but haven't found it yet..

 

[Poec54]

Why are there so many blue tarantulas or part blue? I know there is an answer but haven't found it yet..

Good question. Blue is unusually common in tarantulas, and I've also been stumped as to why. There's a lot of other colors that are under-represented. There was an interesting article on MSN today questioning whether humans could see the color blue until very recently, as it seems to be missing from ancient writings. If we've only recently been able to see blue, or at least vividly enough to see it and name it, there may be other animals that don't see it either. That would be a great advantage to spiders when it comes to prey and predators.

 

[Angel Minkov]

Good question. Blue is unusually common in tarantulas, and I've also been stumped as to why. There's a lot of other colors that are under-represented. There was an interesting article on MSN today questioning whether humans could see the color blue until very recently, as it seems to be missing from ancient writings. If we've only recently been able to see blue, or at least vividly enough to see it and name it, there may be other animals that don't see it either. That would be a great advantage to spiders when it comes to prey and predators.

So, in theory, it could make the tarantula near invisible? Thats very interesting. Thanks for the info.

 

[awiec]

So, in theory, it could make the tarantula near invisible? Thats very interesting. Thanks for the info.

Also its thought that some insects can see and are attracted to bluish-purple things so it may serve as a lure for prey

 

[Ellenantula]

There was an interesting article on MSN today questioning whether humans could see the color blue until very recently, as it seems to be missing from ancient writings. If we've only recently been able to see blue, or at least vividly enough to see it and name it, there may be other animals that don't see it either.

Not sure if you consider Torah ancient enough or not, but in Numbers 15:38
'Speak unto the children of Israel, and bid them that they make them throughout their generations fringes in the corners of their garments, and that they put with the fringe of each corner a thread of blue". (JPS)
Hebrew for blue is tekhelet and is used through-out TaNaKh to refer to this blue.

Sorry for jumping in, but the tekhelet debate always fascinated me since modern tallit tzitzit don't use the blue, due to some rabbinical argument about origins of the blue dye. I may google the MSN article -- it would be of interest to me.

 

[Poec54]

Not sure if you consider Torah ancient enough or not, but in Numbers 15:38
'Speak unto the children of Israel, and bid them that they make them throughout their generations fringes in the corners of their garments, and that they put with the fringe of each corner a thread of blue". (tallit tzitzit don't use the blue, due to some rabbinical argument about origins of the blue dye. I may google the MSN article -- it would be of iJPS)
Hebrew for blue is tekhelet and is used through-out TaNaKh to refer to this blue.

You can't assume any words or phrases are still intact. Both testaments of the bible have been hand-copied and translated so many times just in the first few centuries, with thousands of intentional and accidental changes along the way, that bible scholars have spent the last 200 years trying to unravel what the long-lost original scripts actually said. And there's still a lot of things they don't agree with each other on.

 

[Ellenantula]

You can't assume any words or phrases are still intact. Both testaments of the bible have been hand-copied and translated so many times just in the first few centuries, with thousands of intentional and accidental changes along the way, that bible scholars have spent the last 200 years trying to unravel what the long-lost original scripts actually said. And there's still a lot of things they don't agree with each other on.

True. I was surprised in studying ancient manuscripts how recent our copies of Homer and Euripides really are.
No originals exist, obviously.
Lots of changes can occur over the years.
A copy of a copy of a copy.....
Then, translated into different languages ad nauseum.
Who knows how closely our copies match the original.

But, Mishnah/Talmud do go back a couple thousand years and refer to this "blue" debate.
So,
I would argue for the historical reference to a blue due to these other supporting documents.

Ellen <---been wrong before, will be again, yet the sun continues to rise anyway.

 

[TheHonestPirate]

I remember when i got into this hobby 6 months ago i wanted a blue T and was about to buy one until I learned about how difficult different species are. I also almost bought an OBT as my first T at am expo, that wouldve been bad news. How long do you guys think I shoild waiy before moving into an arboreal sling?

 

[Ellenantula]

How long do you guys think I shoild waiy before moving into an arboreal sling?

Doesn't work that way.
There is no timetable to be ready (i.e. terrestrials for 1.5 years; semi-arboreals at after that, then faster OBT at 3.8 years....) it depends on the person and experience.
Some people have done fine with an OBT as first their T (I didn't do well) and some could keep Ts for 30 years and should still pass on a faster more defensive T.
This is being discussed already on the boards "ready for obt" or something similar.

 

[TheHonestPirate]

Doesn't work that way.
There is no timetable to be ready (i.e. terrestrials for 1.5 years; semi-arboreals at after that, then faster OBT at 3.8 years....) it depends on the person and experience.
Some people have done fine with an OBT as first their T (I didn't do well) and some could keep Ts for 30 years and should still pass on a faster more defensive T.
This is being discussed already on the boards "ready for obt" or something similar.

Personally i'm leaning towards mever OBT because i've seen their speed and how aggressive they can be if provoked. Haha.

 

[awiec]

Personally i'm leaning towards mever OBT because i've seen their speed and how aggressive they can be if provoked. Haha.

You just go in steps and at some point you become ready. I personally will probably never own an obt as my t.gigas satisfys my orange craving and I prefer pokies as they are less likely to flip their lids and bite. But everyone has different tastes and that's what makes this hobby great

 

[Ellenantula]

Interesting article re: seeing blue color and ancient manuscripts. It googles.

 

[Poec54]

Personally i'm leaning towards mever OBT because i've seen their speed and how aggressive they can be if provoked. Haha.

Check out bite reports too, even more fun.

---------- Post added 02-28-2015 at 09:18 PM ----------

But, Mishnah/Talmud do go back a couple thousand years and refer to this "blue" debate.

Actually, the older a manuscript is, the more it will have strayed from the original, especially when copies were made by hand, one at a time, by untrained scribes.