blue lasiodora

[micheldied]

hi everyone!

i´m also from Brazil, but i´m not here to be one more witness, i just need to say that this species isn´t a Lasiodora or Acanthoscurria, neither a Vitallius this beaultifull jewel belongs to the ancient genus: Cenobiopelma (Mello-Letão & Arlé,1934), and was discoverd recently here in Brazil inthe states of Minas Gerais and Goiás!

here´s part of the extensive documentation i had acess last night, but unfortunetally i don´t have a copy or the papers!

"A new species, is described from Brazil. Male can be
distinguished by the male palpal bulb lacking a small subapical keel on the embolus in conjunction with the embolus length (less than 2.5 times the tegulum length) and by the tibial spur being inserted in a perpendicular angle in relation to the tibia axis.
Female can be distinguished by the spermathecae being much more longer than wide, lacking lateral lobes and having a large terminal lobe with five smaller lobes around it. Additionally, males and females can be distinguished by the general blue metallic color pattern contrasting with the reddish setae on the abdomen...."​

Seeing this study and the video posted earlier, i have no doubt that this is a great looking blue terrestrial spider, despite the beaulty this species is also known to be medium sized adults, like Vitallius sp!

Yesterday I had the opportunity to get some slings of this beautiful child, and I'm really trying to be the owner of perhaps 5 or 10 of them, hopefully I can get my hands on them soon! because here in Brazil it is more difficult, because the laws are so blind and inefficient, and we simply can not reproduce this treasure in captivity and establish a good market and responsible!

if i had the honor to be gifted with some of this new generation i´ll be much happy to came over here and guarantee to you, that they are really as blue as it looks inthe video and pics!

But for me!....

It is that Blue!

Cheers

everything good comes from brazil...golden cichla and now,blue tarantulas.:clap:

 

[Zoltan]

i dont really understand why ppl dont believe that a lasiodora or terrestrial could be so blue. even tho theres already GBBs, singapore blues, and many other super colorful Ts.

I believe a terrestrial can be so blue... but I don't believe it's a Lasiodora or anything else until it's been examined and it's placement has been properly determined. I mean, what makes it a Lasiodora? And one needs to be careful with suddenly sprouting very colorful/rare spiders on the internet - anybody remember "Citharischius stridulantissimus"?

 

[Falk]

Loolks like Theraphosidae sp.Brazilian blue/violet

 

[Arachnus]

Thanks Zoltan and micheldied!

Well in fact, i could get the article some days ago, but for now, talking to a friend of the person who´s studying these spiders (mencioned in the article), he told me not to publish or expand this study here, cause even they have the exact certain, that this BBV is the same from the article, so to you guys, i´ll ask to wait a little bit more till i reach the full truth about the BBVs please!

There are some pictures in the full material, but neither is a full growth adult female, there´s only some pictures of mature males and some slings!

in the video i believed in first view that it´s not a Lasiodora, Acanthoscurria, it´s morpholgy is so alike Vitalius, but this s just a shoot by me!

Soon i´ll have solid informations and i´m in the way to get my own individuals to examine!

thanks you guys and see you soon!

 

[Redneck]

Well I dont think I want a P. metallica no more... That right there is... WOW!!!!! :drool::drool::drool::drool:

 

[SpiderDane]

:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

What a beauty...! Give. give, give... :}

 

[shanebp]

If that T is real, its definitely on my list to get!

 

[GoTerps]

http://www.the-t-store.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=15046

Eric

 

[shanebp]

Oh wow, thats awesome! I hope I can get my hands on one of these!

 

[TalonAWD]

I am SOOOOO buying that!!!!

 

[Teal]

Well I dont think I want a P. metallica no more... That right there is... WOW!!!!! :drool::drool::drool::drool:

I call bull! lol You'll never stop wanting a P. metallica babe, and you know it!

Personally, I don't see the die-hard attraction of blue Ts.. but that's just me!

It is a pretty T... hopefully yall will get your wishes granted, and they'll become more common in the hobby

 

[ftorres]

HEllo All,
Nice T.

Another GBB and Ap moorei look alike.

Keep the blue Ts coming we need more.

 

[cmcghee358]

So did we prove this exists or was it a photoshop hoax? My wife is warming up to the hobby and she wants her first T to be stunning.

 

[le-thomas]

So did we prove this exists or was it a photoshop hoax? My wife is warming up to the hobby and she wants her first T to be stunning.

I would assume it was doctored. If she wants a stunning T, LPs are good because of their size and the fact that they don't hide much. GBB and A. versicolor are super colorful and easy to take care of, though the LP generally beats them in that department.

 

[sjl197]

Everyone who thought/still thinks its doctored..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/sep/17/blue-tarantula-new-to-nature

Here's a shameless plug for the BTS forum., which gives the actual article details.
http://thebts.co.uk/forums/showthre...l-Pterinopelma-revalidation-and-a-new-species

ok... well alright..
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/sho....-Pterinopelma-revalidation-and-a-new-species

 

[le-thomas]

Everyone who thought/still thinks its doctored..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/sep/17/blue-tarantula-new-to-nature

Here's a shameless plug for the BTS forum., which gives the actual article details.
http://thebts.co.uk/forums/showthre...l-Pterinopelma-revalidation-and-a-new-species

ok... well alright..
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/sho....-Pterinopelma-revalidation-and-a-new-species

The spider in those three links belongs to a new genus "Pterinopelma" from what I read, and this thread was posted to inquire about a supposed blue tarantula from the Lasiodora genus. So, the original pictures were of a Pterinopelma sp. and not Lasiodora then?

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

I could easily photoshop a blue lasiodora but this spider looks awsome !!!

it looks like it should be a lasiodora genus T though... not Pterinopelma sp

btw.. I photoshoped my avatar lol:biggrin:

 

[sjl197]

@le-thomas

As with much in the hobby, the spider discussed in the thread was largely 'identified' by people looking at pictures and saying .. i think its.... Vitalius, Lasiodora etc etc.
So yes, unless my post was not clear, its seems that indeed the large blue species from Minas Gerais, Brazil became Pterinopelma sazimai.
(ignoring some sideline of what became Olioxystre diamentinensis as a possible resurected Cenobiopelma sp, another blue sympatric species).
P.s. not a new genus, but a resurrected old genus. And i'll admit, im not convinced, really in the analyses only defined by the denticulate row on the keel (node 47) which is also present in the outgroup Sphaerobothria and Aphonopelma (well those that count anyway), (node60) .

@ Ultum4Spiderz

Indeed an awesome looking spider. What i didn't like was discussion after publication on the forums of 'I want one'. Thats the trouble with the pettrade. Thats why researchers are often guarded with their new finds, and i commend the authors for putting field location data in the description paper, when they could have chosen to guard that info. It might look like a Lasiodora as its supposedly very closely related to Lasiodora, in the authors analyses Pterinopelma comes out as sister-group to Lasiodora + (Nhandu+ Vitalius). Closely related species or genus often look alike, and estimates of relatedness as in the paper are often based on such similarities. So, Ultum4Spiderz , why doesnt it look like a Pterinopelma sp to you. How many of that genus have you seen of those exactly?

Are you saying you still dont believe it now the species if formally described in a respected peer reviewed journal? The photo in the guardian newspaper link i gave is also published in the actual scientific article. Why is it hard to believe the existence of yet another blue taranutla species when there are several blue ones known.. and such a P.metallica you can find easily to see yourself?

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

I never said it was a Fake.. I mean I have good photostop skills & could make any lasiodora look blue

It clearly is a real spider & hope it gets into the american T hobby someday:biggrin::biggrin:
there are many Blue Tarantulas.. sadly my A versicolor.. died from a wet molt & will be missed :cry:

 

[crawltech]

...none of my biz, but it looks like Ultum didnt even read sjl's post whatsover before responding...wow ^^ is all I have to say!