Blondi update!

[Talkenlate04]

mabey thinking that male sperm dies after this period?

Lol after 4 months??? She was bred inside two weeks after a fresh molt too. I don't think you can have a more perfect mating, well yes you can lol we need 8 legged results first before I get ahead of myself.

 

[syndicate]

i wouldnt think its infertile just trying to figure out what he means heh.
congrats on eggsac man

 

[Talkenlate04]

I'll have pics of the roll up soon enough.

 

[Mina]

I understand not wanting to count your eggs before they sprout legs but I'm not sure why someone would think the sack should be infertile. It sounded to me from what you said the timing should be perfect for a healthy sack. Best of luck and post pics when you get eggs with legs, we love blondi pics!!!!!!

 

[Talkenlate04]

Here is the wrap up.

 

[funnylori]

The sac is huge! She looks like she lost a little weight, but she's still enormous!

 

[OldHag]

OHHHHHH MAN that is SO COOL!! Congrats!! WOW That is such an exciting feeling!!!



Im jealous!

 

[Talkenlate04]

Crap I just noticed all that dang hair all over her in the last picture. She kicked a lot of hairs all over the sac at different stages. I am going to have to suit up to take that bad boy away from her.

 

[Lucara]

Congratz! You have a stunning girl!!! =D I hope you get tons of babies to spread around! =D

 

[matthias]

Crap I just noticed all that dang hair all over her in the last picture. She kicked a lot of hairs all over the sac at different stages. I am going to have to suit up to take that bad boy away from her.

Yeah but can you think of a better defense mechanism for her sac?

Congrats and good luck. I'm so jealous!:worship: :worship:

 

[julesaussies]

Holy Cow!! That girl sure knows how to make a sac. No lack of webbing there!

She is a gorgeous blondi. One of the nicest and healthiest looking i've ever seen. Her trunk definitely shrunk but she's still a big girl. i have 3 slings coming soon from a SCABIES group purchase. i almost didn't get them because i honestly don't know if i can deal with the hairs and i was kind of concerned about all the fungus issues and bad molts i read about on AB. i figure if i truly can't deal with the hairs - worse case senerio, surely i can sell them to somebody. Now that i've seen your big beautiful girl i am glad i decided to get them.

i know what you mean about those hairs. i think every big blondi i have ever seen has loose hairs literally all over them and all around them.

Speaking of blondi hairs... Do they literally kick them up and out of their enclosures - like say when mine get big and are house in a 10 or 20 gal tank??

You don't see cb blondi slings available real often. i hope you get a lot of healthy slings because they will sell out fast!

When are you going to pull the sac?

 

[Tescos]

Hi

Lol after 4 months??? She was bred inside two weeks after a fresh molt too. I don't think you can have a more perfect mating, well yes you can lol we need 8 legged results first before I get ahead of myself.

And why must the sperm still be fertile? But that is a totally different line of thought that I am not going down.
OK To be totally honest here are a few reasons why I do not think your eggsac will be ok.

1. It was mated too soon after a moult. (I am not willing to say any further on this as at this moment in time I am writing something along these lines for an article).

2. A 4 month long gastration period with T. blondi is a long time. With this species it is more common that after the 3 month period after a mating is up the chances of a successful sac go down alot. This does not mean in evey case but on the whole.
@ the person with the G.rosea coment of 1 year well this is a totally different species and I am just saying about what I read and have experinced for myself in regards to T. blondi.

3. You mated the female only twice. Sorry but this has been mentioned to me, and has also been proven to work in my case that if you want a successful eggsac from a Theraphosa species you need to mate them and mate them and mate them up until the day the female lays her eggsac or does not accept any more matings (I do not mean eating just the one male here as that is just a minor blip). BTW a fresh or old male makes hardly any difference IMHO.

4. The damp side of your set up does not look damp enough and your dry side looks too dry. I have a small suspicion that living conditions also play an important part in the incubation period.

5. It is well out of eggsac season for T.blondi. The ideal time to get an eggsac from this species is from Augest to September ,September being very late also but still just in time. You can see this all the time out here with WC imports, as around the November/December period there is often an influx of mature adult females of T.blondi to be brought, as well as a selection of first moult spiderlings from the captive eggsacs they have laid. If you look closely you can see that the vast majority of the adult females you can see the signs that they are guilty of laying a eggsac in the past few months.

You can if you wish "lol" all you want at my thinking as I am sure with all that experince behind your good self, you know a hell of a lot more about this subject than I could ever know. I would also love for you to pull this eggsac off and wish you every success with it.
Just forgive me for thinking that I do not think it will prove to be a good one. Still like I said ...you never know.

I look forward to Febuary now.
Oh before I go can I just ask
What and how much did you feed in the gastration period?
Cheers
Chris

 

[RottweilExpress]

This will prove interesting, I'm hoping for the best!

 

[Talkenlate04]

You can if you wish "lol" all you want at my thinking as I am sure with all that experince behind your good self, you know a hell of a lot more about this subject than I could ever know. I would also love for you to pull this eggsac off and wish you every success with it.
Just forgive me for thinking that I do not think it will prove to be a good one. Still like I said ...you never know.

I look forward to Febuary now.
Oh before I go can I just ask
What and how much did you feed in the gastration period?
Cheers
Chris

Hey I never said I knew beans about these guys this blondi is all I have in my collection as far as Theraphosids go. No where will you see me saying I know anything really about these guys, so your condescending attitude is not really needed in your reply. I asked you a question about why you were thinking what you were thinking and IF you are not capable of answering in a none sarcastic manner then don't answer at all.

Anyway moving on.

I have a small suspicion that living conditions also play an important part in the incubation period.

I agree with you here, but I also agree that if you get something to lay, not to mess with the conditions post egg sac. She was comfortable enough to lay the sac, so why change anything?

This female has eaten sacs before. But under different living conditions wetter conditions actually. After she took to the hide a few days ago the whole tank has been soaked. Now the lighting might be deceiving but it really is wet in there. I am going to stick to what I am doing which is light mistings every day, not soakings of the ground.

And as for the mating. I'm interested in reading what you are writing or thinking about "early breedings". I don't think it really matters in my opinion. If a female is receptive to the MM, then why can't they mate? Does this apply to only T. Blondi?

Oh before I go can I just ask
What and how much did you feed in the gastration period?

As for feeding, she got anything she wanted, mostly dubia roaches and a few pinkies and she ate like a hog for the first few months and slowed down a bit the last 3 weeks. She ate her last meal three or four days before she dropped. At least she made it past night one. The first night is when she likes to eat her sac.

Now she is rotating it and has the side of the tank where her hide is covered with a black T shirt so it stays dark all day. I was told by someone from the Theraphosid Breeding Project I should feed her a good meal in a few more days that doing this might prevent the sac from being eaten somewhere down the line. I'll just make sure I am watching where she tucks those remains so I can get them out ASAP. I don't need mites!!!

 

[padkison]

Fantastic set of photos Ryan! Best of luck with this sac, I hope to see pics of eggs w/ legs down the road.

I am curious as to how big the momma is? What is the width dimension of that enclosure?

 

[Tescos]

Hi

condescending attitude is not really needed in your reply

Maybe it is me or maybe it is you but there is a real lack of comunication here. Maybe I read it wrong or you did indeed mean for me to read it like I did but when you wrote:-

Lol after 4 months???

At a possible train of thought I may have had , it does seem to me like you were just laughing in my face so how do you expect me to reply to your replies?
Anyway moving on.

In regards to the meaty diat:-
meaty diat thread (a short one)
Not saying it is good or bad but I think it is something to consider but proberly just me.

And as for the mating. I'm interested in reading what you are writing or thinking about "early breedings". I don't think it really matters in my opinion. If a female is receptive to the MM, then why can't they mate? Does this apply to only T. Blondi?

nothing to do with mateing. re-read, but again I am not descussing something that I am writeing.

I was told by someone from the Theraphosid Breeding Project I should feed her a good meal in a few more days that doing this might prevent the sac from being eaten somewhere down the line.

Ok I see the line of thought but I also see the size of your spiders abdomen after the eggsac production. If the eggsac IS fertile then I think you are going to be hard pressed to even get the spider to eat the eggsac even if it was starving (based on own experinces with starving spiders on eggsacs and a fair amount of disturbance)

I don't need mites!!!

There is IMHO a much bigger threat than mites but because I can't give you the answer in a none sarcastic manner then I won't answer this at all.

Anyways like I have stated from the start I really do hope it works out well for you.

I just don't think it will for reasons stated.
Cheers
Chris

 

[Talkenlate04]

It's cool, odds stacked against me I like it that way. ;P But as I said, I really don't know much about these guys at all, I am bouncing questions off someone from the Theraphosid Breeding Project all the time.

So will any of your thought processes change if it is fertile? Or will you just chalk it up to luck?

Maybe it is me or maybe it is you but there is a real lack of comunication here.

Miscommunication. I was laughing because I would not be suprised if I did something wrong with these guys. And that is why I was asking why you thought the way you did.

 

[Mina]

Bill and Bruce should be able to help Ryan, they just had a couple of successful sacks and their babies are adorable!!! (yes, I'm sure you already knew that, I'm just restating facts) Keep us updated and best of luck, I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you!!!!

 

[Tescos]

So will any of your thought processes change if it is fertile?

Hard one to say because of other successes I have heard about under similar circumstances (not many but 1 or 2). But yes I supose because if it comes off (which I hasten to add I hope it does) I will look more on this as luck, more than anything else because it would go against most the other information I know about in breeding this species. If more and more successes are reach in this way however then you would have to accept it as the balance sways but at this moment......? I am sure my thinking will start change in some ways though.
Hey, you pull it off and I will be the first to say I was wrong this time. In fact I hope I get to say this but I still have my doubts and I think not needless ones. At least I am basiing them on something and not saying them out of spite.
No hard feelings here.
All the best
Chris

 

[Talkenlate04]

No hard feelings here.

No hard feelings at all, I really want to be successful with these guys at least once. And with this girl eating a sac before this I am very open to other methods of approaching them when it comes to breeding. Can you point me to some reading of other successful setups and timelines? That way if this time fails I can try something new and proven. There is not much in the breeding reports on this forum.

The only reason I am trying a setup that is soaking wet is because of the outcome of the last try. Guess we will both find out in a few weeks. I think I am going to let her take care of it till around day 25-30.