Bleeding leg help !

[Cristian22]

I accidentally dropped my A chalcodes she is bleeding from her leg and isn't moving it I just put some super glue on it will she be okay ?

 

[cold blood]

superglue...good luck shedding that molt.

Its a leg, it cant bleed to death from a leg, they have a valve at the base of each leg and can close it when injured.

Tarantulas are like fish, for observation, not handling...and just like that fish, only bad things can happen ...nothing positive comes from it.

 

[Cristian22]

Christ.... should I remove the glue then ?

 

[arachnid.abdomen]

For future reference, it isnt recommended at all to handle tarantulas but if you do, keep them close to a soft surface so if they do somehow fall, it'll reduce any injury risk

 

[cold blood]

Christ.... should I remove the glue then ?

impossible.....hopefully it will cast off the leg prior to molting.

 

[Cristian22]

Oh man I really hope so but thanks for the info I still got a lot to learn about the T world.but I will try and be more careful next time ....

 

[miss moxie]

Oh man I really hope so but thanks for the info I still got a lot to learn about the T world.but I will try and be more careful next time ....

.......next time? So you've learned nothing. Your tarantula got hurt because you were holding them and your reaction is "next time I hold them..." instead of "I don't want them to get hurt again so I won't hold them anymore."

 

[Anoplogaster]

Either the T will remove the leg, and it will regenerate after a couple molts, or the leg will get stuck during the next molt. If it gets stuck, it'll likely come off also. Either that, or the T gets stuck and dies.

Either way, handling Ts will kill them sooner or later.

 

[The Grym Reaper]

next time ....

 

[JDS123]

So most of you do not handle your tarantulas? You guys just came up with the unwritten law that tarantulas must not be handled?

I've kept and handled 100s of tarantulas for over 25 years without incident. Other than an enclosure location fail.

Yes you must handle terrestrial species over soft surface, keeping them close to the surface.

Arboreal species are much safer to handle as far as the tarantulas safety.

You are always at risk of a bite. Also contact with the urticating hairs.

The point is, it's not a fish. We handle snakes, lizards, rats, mice and so on.

I am sickened by the way I see many ppl handle tarantulas and other such creatures. However, hundreds of thousands of us know what we are doing.

The OP hopefully yet sadly learned a hard lesson.

My cat knocked my oldest favorite T from a shelf about 20 years ago and it died. I was sickened but I learned from it. Not to keep the enclosure unsecured in a room with something that can knock the enclosure over.

Anyways. Come on guys. They are delicate, and handeling should be kept extremely chill, but it's not a fish out of water.

My favorite part of keeping Ts for 25 years has been just letting a simple A. versicolor walk from hand to hand.

Hopefully he learned his lesson, and others will as well from reading his post.

Ppl will argue this because that's just what everyone loves to do now days. Argue online. We have all evolved along with the creatures of the earth. Some can't wait to just make up the rules for everyone.

We can see this a million ways from both sides, I've been on both sides, but the older I get, the more you see through a lot of ninny BS.

I know the most important thing here is that everyone of you absolutely mean well, and are correct that Ts are not a kitten. You all have the world of Ts and the hobby in your best interest. You do not want ppl like this killing them, or getting bit and making a scene, or stressing the Ts, but we gotta put on our big boy pants now and then.

All I'm saying, is it's not a fish.

Those of you buying one to handle all the time, to show off by handling or letting it walk around on your face, just please don't.

However once you have more experience with them over time, certain species can easily be handled " safely". If you absolutely must be stubborn and handle the terrestrial types and your not going to listen to the good ppl here, then you absolutely have to hold it over a soft surface very close to the T. They simply are not built to take drops. I've had arboreal species jump over 2 feet to another terrarium. Your problem then lies in the fact that arboreal Tarantulas can be flighty and some a bit more bitey. It's all about using your head. It's a live creature. Not a toy.

To the OP, I know your sad about what happened. I'm sorry it happened. It takes a split second for bad things to happen. I would be doing as much reading as possible and just enjoy keeping them while you gain more knowledge, especially in T first aid lol, before any more handling attempts. Sorry you had to learn the hard way.

Last thing, when I hold my versicolors I let them come out of the enclosure onto my hand as they please then I give them the opportunity to go back into the enclosures. Lots of times are a pain to get back into the enclosure they just want to stay on your hand. However, from the hundreds I've handled, I assume most are not enjoying so don't think your are doing the T any favors by holding it, cuz your not.

 

[MetalMan2004]

When they injure a leg they will decide ont their own when it is time toncast the leg off. I recieved a T that got jostled in the mail and got a hurt leg. He walked around with it curled for about two weeks, then one day I took a look and the leg was sitting there on the ground next to him. No Hemolymph leaked at all. Its pretty fascinating to see.

 

[miss moxie]

I've kept and handled 100s of tarantulas for over 25 years without incident. Other than an enclosure location fail.

The problem isn't with 'once in a while I handle one of my tarantulas' because I'm guilty of that. I used to handle freely in the beginning, then I only held my Euathlus sp. "red" because once a week when I took the lid completely off to clean/fill the water bowl and remove any debris she would climb up and out onto my hand. So I'd let her walk across my fingers for a moment or two before I set her back in. Recently my G. pulchra female has started the same thing-- up the enclosure and onto my hand. So I let her walk across my hand for a moment or two before I set her back in. Every time I would lower my hands so they were resting on the blanket of my bed, not even hovering so there was no chance for a fall at all unless they raced to the edge of the mattress.

The problem is with people who treat tarantulas like hamsters, taking them out multiple times a day for a very long time. Don't say that never happens because if you go read the Grammastola rosea bite reports you'll see one about how a guy would sit on his couch and watch tv while holding his tarantula. He wasn't even looking at her while he had her out if he was watching the television.

Is there a time and a place where you can handle tarantulas correctly? Sure. I stress can because as you mentioned, they never seem to enjoy it. Unless you ask the people who think their Avicularia tarantulas love "bum rubs".

 

[cold blood]

So most of you do not handle your tarantulas?

Nope...its not something most serious collectors ever do past the first month or so of ownership.

You guys just came up with the unwritten law that tarantulas must not be handled?

Not a law...its something we don't do because doing so is just not logical...I mean, we all know they are fragile, we all know they don't bond or derive satisfaction or have a single benefit to the t...only detrimental things can happen...you will never hear of a positive for a t because it was handled.

We recommend not handling out of experience and knowledge...one can indeed do what they like with their ts...but heck we see people doing all kinds of stupid things with all kinds of animals...it doesn't make any of it right, smart or even logical.

But don't break your t handling it and expect people not to voice their concerns.

The point is, it's not a fish. We handle snakes, lizards, rats, mice and so on

Yep, all these animals (and more) are much more suited to handling....you handle snakes, sure, but typically intelligent people do not hold the venomous ones.

and handling should be kept extremely chill, but it's not a fish out of water.

All I'm saying, is it's not a fish

Its not a fish, no, but the comparisons are direct, handling both can and will have detrimental effects and handling either will never result in a positive thing for either animal....heck, when comparing them to fish, a fish is not going to break if it falls, nor is it going to run away or even bite...so its actually more logical to handle fish than it is to handle a t.

If you want an animal to handle, there are literally hundreds of better choices than a tarantula.

I also think post #6 was treated a bit harshly...a goal toward improvement is all we can ask.

 

[SolFeliz]

There is nothing wrong with handling a t. I handle my cockroaches and they are some of the most healthy roaches I've ever seen. Best thing to do with ts is to let them come on to your hand and handle them over their enclosure, or let them wander on the floor, given there are no excited dogs and cats in the room and every one knows they are there. In the end, this was a bad accident that will happen again and there is nothing we can do about it. The t likely didn't mind, as losing or injuring a limb is something that happens anyway in the wild. And all the people who are saying they are too fragile to touch, what hole have you been living in. Yes, they are fragile. Ans those saying you don't handle fish, any experienced fish owner know that a) they are not that fragile and b) you do have to handle them every now and again.

 

[Anoplogaster]

There is nothing wrong with handling a t. I handle my cockroaches and they are some of the most healthy roaches I've ever seen. Best thing to do with ts is to let them come on to your hand and handle them over their enclosure, or let them wander on the floor, given there are no excited dogs and cats in the room and every one knows they are there. In the end, this was a bad accident that will happen again and there is nothing we can do about it. The t likely didn't mind, as losing or injuring a limb is something that happens anyway in the wild. And all the people who are saying they are too fragile to touch, what hole have you been living in. Yes, they are fragile. Ans those saying you don't handle fish, any experienced fish owner know that a) they are not that fragile and b) you do have to handle them every now and again.

Sure, losing limbs happens in the wild. Humans lose limbs, too. So let's pretend animals don't mind losing limbs, since it just happens anyways

The fish analogy is meant to discourage handling for fun. You handle fish if they NEED something, the same way you pinch grab a T if you NEED to. Do you pull your fish out and handle it for fun? I'm both an angler AND an ichthyologist. Well aware that fish are some of the most resiliant vertebrates on the planet.

But hey, whatever people choose to do with their animals is entirely their choice. But when people post a thread along the lines of "My T is bleeding, what should I do?" ..... Well, that can happen when you handle them. If you handle, you simply need to accept that injuries/death may occur. If you're not ok with that, maybe rethink handling?

 

[cold blood]

a) they are not that fragile

Yeah, that's EXACTLY what I said.

you do have to handle them every now and again.

As I said, its actually less detrimental to hold a fish.

 

[Leila]

There is nothing wrong with handling a t. I handle my cockroaches and they are some of the most healthy roaches I've ever seen.

...not even the same animal...

 

[Venom1080]

For Pete's sake. This horse again.. :/

Tarantulas simply get absolutely nothing positive out of handling. It has ZERO pros and PLENTY of cons.

It is basic logic to not handle tarantulas.

 

[Nightstalker47]

If you truly care about your spiders you won't risk their lives for a temporary adrenaline rush.

Handling them is like playing with fire, it's not always going to end in chaos but it could become uncontrollable in the blink of an eye. Try and weigh the pros and cons, what's there to gain in handling them?

Nothing. But there's everything to lose. You can get tagged and the spider will get flung through reflex, that or it can plummet to it's death. The animal is at risk and so are you.

It's a venomous Invertebrate, not a hamster. They can bite or take off at any moment. It's a very risky practice, especially with fast arboreals that can jump.

 

[JDS123]

Good to see we all have our own opinions. Somebody mentioned "serious" keepers don't handle them. Get real, what makes you more serious..........good lord. All of the "serious" keepers I've know over the years got great enjoyment letting a versicolor walk from arm to arm. They can fall out of trees for crying out loud and survive.

Many have different "personalities " and once you are "experienced" or "serious" you can tell.

Like I said, snakes, rats, hamsters, mice, lizards especially like monitors and dragons can all bite you, get pissed, split out of site, damage a limb lose a tail.....

Everyone will argue about this till the end of days. Good thing this isn't a forum about keeping big cats or something Jesus.

Like I said, do they enjoy being handle, I think some don't want it at all but others don't give a shit and find it a chance to explore.

Those of you saying one strolling around or just sitting on your arm collecting drops of water off its legs or something is "not liking it" their is no way you can claim that. You just like me cannot mind read spiders for Gods sake.

Seriously. Oh and I don't hold them for a "rush". I hold them when they seem to be chill and interested and I enjoy the beauty of 2 of Gods creatures being together,the peaceful beauty of it.

Anyways, you all have valid points but some are ridiculous, that's just mine and many others opinions though.

Don't give me the "serious" keepers argument though. I'm 42 years old and have been way around the block and have known many "serious" keepers of all animals.

I agree with majority of what you guys say, it's not a kitten, it's not sitting waiting to be held.

It's not a couch buddy for watching tv lmao Jesus that's too crazy.

If I open the lid to my avic and it comes out of hide, goes up my hand and chills or wanders around, get real, you have no idea, maybe the avic is actually enjoying wandering for a little while and sensing new things.

Anyways like I said, we will always argue about this as long as we have ppl that act like things are all set in stone.

Hopefully what comes of this in the end is idiots stop handling them, and others who gain experience can safely have those awesome experiences from time to time.

The argument will never end though.

Especially on here, anyplace on line. Unless it's a couple of old farts like me that know we don't know it all. It can go on forever.

Whatever.