Black light question

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educate me - what's up with white sand?
in addition to what signinsimple said emps love and need the chance to burrow.
so putting them on sand will make them feel dry, then they will prob try and dig only to realize they can't. whats does that add up to???? < stress = unhealthy scorpion. :( sure they might live like that for a while, but not long....
 

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I've also heard that the sand particles can get lodged in their joints and what not. Apparently the size of sand particles is larger than the dirt particles that the Emps are adapted to and complications can occur keeping them on a sandy substrate. I've heard the same is true for Chinese Armor Tail scorpions.
 

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I've also heard that the sand particles can get lodged in their joints and what not. Apparently the size of sand particles is larger than the dirt particles that the Emps are adapted to and complications can occur keeping them on a sandy substrate. I've heard the same is true for Chinese Armor Tail scorpions.
chinese armor tails (Mesobuthus martensii) are found in wide varieties of habitats from forests to deserts to the intertidal zones of beaches, so i dont believe whoever told you this was right.



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I don't agree with that either. To me, it's sounds like somebody used their own imagination and logic, then came up with a speculation and stated their speculation as fact. I've done that before a few times only to find out I was wrong later, so I try to watch how I say things. Though, I could be wrong, haha.
 

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I bet that was a tarantula person that told you that.
 

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I was also curious on this subject a while back and PMed ~Abyss~ a bit on it, but there's alot to be discovered yet witht he subject. We were discussing "what makes them glow", not really if its harmful though. Id say its ok for a few pics, just dont leave it on them.
 

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I was talking about the sand part. But as far as the UV light "experiments" they were cut short when I got rid of my collection but I do have reason to believe it's harmful to scorpions and does result in death.
 

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chinese armor tails (Mesobuthus martensii) are found in wide varieties of habitats from forests to deserts to the intertidal zones of beaches, so i dont believe whoever told you this was right.



John
Possible. It was actually one of the dealers from this forum who I was going to buy the armor tails from around 9 months ago (can't remember off the top of my head which one...I called a bunch). When he heard my set up was all sand he said they would not do well in the set up and could have serious complications from the sand. I ended up not buying any scorpions from him because of it too (he didn't have any other scorps I was interested in) so that would be funny if he was wrong..talked himself out of a big sale cause I was gonna get a bunch. Anyway, he sounded like he encountered the problem before so I took him at his word.
 

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Hi folks, sorry but here are my two cents as being new to forums, the glow that scorpions emit is very very important to their hunting survival, so it's not a good idea to use UV light for an extended period of time as above posters have mentioned it will lessen their ability to sustain that form.

a lot of plants emit UV light signals that draws in pollinators, which are often insects IE. Bees.. ; by reflecting UV light, the scorpion may be, in a sense, "pretending" to be a plant to attract food... hope this helps.. have a great night.
 

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Hi folks, sorry but here are my two cents as being new to forums, the glow that scorpions emit is very very important to their hunting survival, so it's not a good idea to use UV light for an extended period of time as above posters have mentioned it will lessen their ability to sustain that form.

a lot of plants emit UV light signals that draws in pollinators, which are often insects IE. Bees.. ; by reflecting UV light, the scorpion may be, in a sense, "pretending" to be a plant to attract food... hope this helps.. have a great night.
Good for wild survivors but true. THey do catch moths that way.
 

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This would be strange since scorpions are generally nocturnal. There would be not UV light coming down on them so there would be none to reflect off of them. Some plants reflect UV that bees and other insects see but they don't create the UV, it's reflected from sunlight, right? ..am I missing something? The moon maybe? Maybe I'm missing something with that post.
 

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moonlight. Ever put a scorpion out in the sun and see it glow a bit....usually with emps. Well I have personally been out hunting in pitch blackness and seen scorps catch moths when I shine the blacklight around. I've also caught a few in mouth as well from holding the light with my mouth.
 

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Has this been documented or is this a "local" theory? I see moths fly around my blacklight and maybe I could see one flying at a lit up scorp with the blacklight but that's pretty powerful. I don't think moon shine would have enough uv to light up a scorpion enough for a moth to be attracted to it, even with uv detecting eyes. I just want to know if we are using our own logic here or if it's a documented thing. I find more scorps out when there is no moon and have read that on another site so it's not making sense to me so far. I mean I see how some people are making sense out of it but, well I would need to see more documented info, is it out there? I looked a little, couldn't find anything.
 

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I've seen it on a discovery channel program myself as well. But sometimes even those documentaries can be wrong. They did have footage of scorpion in the desert i believe, catching moths. But your right more scorps come out when theres no moon as appose to full moon. If you want a little more information on UV light harming scorps PM me and I can share some data with you.
 

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It's just a theory.

UV has been said to be anything from sunscreen to moth bait.
 

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I have the moth that I killed with my mouth preserved this thing is huge you wouldn't believe it manage to just fly down my throat and make me choke. Lucky scorpion got away.
 

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I have the moth that I killed with my mouth preserved this thing is huge you wouldn't believe it manage to just fly down my throat and make me choke. Lucky scorpion got away.
haha, take a picture! i want to see it... :clap:

scorp prob got a pretty good chuckle too.... :D
 
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