Beginner tarantula that doesn’t kick hair?

[Vinny2915]

Definitely not a beginner genus...these ts are exceedingly fast.

Psalmopeous have the strongest venom of all the NW tarantulas.



No different really than a Psalmopeous. Although they are less defensive than Psalmopeous...but still not a beginner as you said.

I meant relatively weak in relation to old world tarantulas. Using the posters guidelines in finding a spider these I believe are the most beginner ish. Depending on the person in question a beginner has a chance of not having issues with a psalmopoeus sp. Though, yes, you are right, they aren't an overall beginner tarantula.

 

[viper69]

Your top three in order

1. T. cyaneolum
2. E. sp. Red or E sp. Yellow
3. G. pulchripes

I have all 4. Hands down T. cyan., is the best out there. I have to thank my good friend @cold blood who turned me on to them.

Dolichothele diamantinensis

1. Web a lot.
2. No hair kicking.
3. FAST.

Indeed no setae flicking, because they don't have any to flick! It's certainly not due to their disposition

 

[The Grym Reaper]

G. iheringi

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[NukaMedia Exotics]

You have some nice looking tarantulas. What do you think about the Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens for beginners?

Pretty fast and prone to bolt, I wouldn't recommend. Lasiodora parahybana & G. pulchripes would be my recommendations for starters, however they both can kick hairs (which really isn't a big deal tbh).

 

[The Grym Reaper]

Lasiodora parahybana & G. pulchripes would be my recommendations for starters, however they both can kick hairs (which really isn't a big deal tbh).

Never seen my G. pulchripes kick hairs (probably wouldn't matter if it did, Grammo hairs aren't even bad lol) but my Lp is probably my worst kicker, they also have some of the worst hairs in the hobby.

 

[Ilich]

Your top three in order

1. T. cyaneolum
2. E. sp. Red or E sp. Yellow
3. G. pulchripes

I have all 4. Hands down T. cyan., is the best out there. I have to thank my good friend @cold blood who turned me on to them.





Indeed no setae flicking, because they don't have any to flick! It's certainly not due to their disposition

I've been looking for a T. cyaneolum, where did you find yours? Was it online or locally?

 

[NukaMedia Exotics]

Never seen my G. pulchripes kick hairs (probably wouldn't matter if it did, Grammo hairs aren't even bad lol) but my Lp is probably my worst kicker, they also have some of the worst hairs in the hobby.

I don't think I've seen my female G. pulchripes kick either, but like I said we know they can so a certain individual might. I pick up my 7" T. stirmi's molt so I don't really consider hairs at all when getting a new T lol.

 

[Andrea82]

E.sp Red. Dwarf species, but I've never seen mine flick hairs. Inquisitive and rarely defensive. Keep an eye on them when feeding or maintenance because this species will just casually stroll out of the enclosure. Not running, but they are fairly persistent

G.iheringi. Never seen mine flick, gets pretty big, lovely stricking black with cherry red. Can be very 'enthusiastic' when feeding so keep fingers out of the enclosure. Fairly fast growing too, especially for a Grammostola species.

I'd stay away from the Psalmopoeus for now. P.pulcher and P.irminia are definitely not suitable beginners because of speed, temperament, and poor visibility in the case of irminia.

Davus pentaloris is also a fun species. It has urticating setae but I've never seen mine flick. Fast growers, striking colours, medium speed. Heavy webbers as well.

 

[CyclingSam]

A. avic is known to be a great beginning species. They do not kick hair. You may get pooped on though.

 

[Cas S]

A. avic is known to be a great beginning species. They do not kick hair. You may get pooped on though.

They do have hairs, but I believe their type 2, meaning they rub them on you

 

[MikeofBorg]

My female Aphonopelma chalcodes only kicked hair once. That was right after getting home from the All Ohio Reptile Show. I'm sure she was agitated from the road vibrations. Was an hour and a half drive home from Columbus OH. Since being in her enclosure she is chill as can be. Touch her with a pain brush and she just walks slowly away. Although she has struck the brush when hungry. I feed her an adult gut loaded Dubia roach and a superworm once a week on Sunday. So Saturday night she gets a bit hungry and looking for food. I might go to twice a week with Dubias and a single superworm weekly. She is pushing 5 inches in leg span. Very awesome T though that sits out in the open all the time. Never uses its hide or makes a burrow. Not like my Aphonopelma seemanni, sub adult at just over 3 inches in leg span, is in pre molt and has been for 3 months now. Basically my A. seemanni is a pet hole right now. Sealed with webbing and soil pet hole. When it was out it was really chill also and never threw a threat pose or kicked hairs. Plus the little orange spinnerets are adorable. They can be skittish at times though and will not hesitate to run into their burrow if they feel threatened. Mine only gets skittish if I accidently breath on it.

My Avicularia avicularia doesn't kick at all, they don't have those kind of urticating hairs. He tries to rub his abdomen on you if you irritate him. But, you really have to bug him or be plucking leftover cricket balls from his web to make him upset. Other than that a very docile and chill species, but very fast. Super fast. So keep that in mind, because they go from motionless to up your arm and on your head in a second. My guy likes to sit on top of my hat. Oh and they can accurately squirt poop 3 feet. I've had it in my beard and my mouth. I can say with the utmost confidence that A. avicularia poo does not taste good nor is it fashionable as a beard accessory. LOL

My 4th T is just a 1/2 inch Brachypelma hamorii which is also in pre molt, locked in his little burrow. I purchased it from Fear Not Tarantulas. Little guy loves flightless fruit flies. Hopefully he can take on small crickets after this molt.

Not sure the sex of my A. seemanni or B. hamorii yet. The B. hamorii is way to small to tell and the A. seemanni has yet to molt in my care. Hopefully it gets to it soon, tired of watching it switch positions in its burrow. It made it right against the glass so I can see it inside just chilling. It moves so I know it is still alive. Knocking on wood it is a girl.

 

[Andrea82]

They do have hairs, but I believe their type 2, meaning they rub them on you

Urticating hairs aren't classified as type 2 because of their location on the spider, AFAIK, but because of the shape and size and severity of the hairs themselves

 

[The Grym Reaper]

Urticating hairs aren't classified as type 2 because of their location on the spider, AFAIK, but because of the shape and size and severity of the hairs themselves

I think the delivery method is included (type II is specific to Aviculariinae, type V is specific to Ephebopus, etc.)

 

[Cas S]

Urticating hairs aren't classified as type 2 because of their location on the spider, AFAIK, but because of the shape and size and severity of the hairs themselves

I meant delivery method (ex: kicking, rubbing)

 

[Andrea82]

I think the delivery method is included (type II is specific to Aviculariinae, type V is specific to Ephebopus, etc.)

Not quite, but we were both close . There are two types of delivery, on the femurs or the abdomen, and there are six different types of urticating setae.
Theraphosidae.be:
What can be said, is the fact that they are subdivided in 6 types (as you can see on the picture), provided with barbs and used in different ways. A bird spider can carry 2 different types, on the abdomen or on the femura of the pedipalps (bv. Ephebopus).

Although little was known in 1972, Cooke et al. described 4 morphological setae and numbered them, from I to IV. They found that type II was exclusive for Avicularia spp.,Pachistopelma spp. and Iridopelma spp., all part of the subfamily of the Aviculariinae. Types I, III and IV were being found on more subfamilies of the new world. Later, in 1990, Marshall & Uetz were able to describe a new type, type V, found on the pedipalps of Ephebopus. Type VI was introduced by Pérez-Miles in 1998, after finding it on the abdomen of Hemirrhagus cervinus(Simon/1891). Types I, II, III and IV are embedded by a penetrating tip, in contrast to type V and VI which are embedded in hair follicles. Type VII was introduced by Perafán, Galvis & Pérez-Miles in 2016 together with the description of a new genus from Colombia,

 

[Andrea82]

I meant delivery method (ex: kicking, rubbing)

I just posted a clarification
We were all three close, but not quite
Peer reviews are the best

 

[cold blood]

I feed her an adult gut loaded Dubia roach and a superworm once a week on Sunday. So Saturday night she gets a bit hungry and looking for food. I might go to twice a week with Dubias and a single superworm weekly

Dang...that's a month or two worth of food for a chalcodes adult....every week. I see long long fasting episodes in her future.

My 4th T is just a 1/2 inch Brachypelma hamorii which is also in pre molt, locked in his little burrow. I purchased it from Fear Not Tarantulas. Little guy loves flightless fruit flies. Hopefully he can take on small crickets after this molt.

Fruit flies are not good feeders, they are nutrient deficient. Crickets or mealworms will do fine, just dice them into appropriate size pieces.

 

[MikeofBorg]

Yeah, I better slow down on the A. chalcodes feeding. She an awesome T, so chill.

I was doing the pre killed meal worms for the B. hamorii, but he basically ignored them when I was watching. The red runners were larger than it was that they sent with him. When he comes back out I'll cut the mealworms up. I was just pinching off their heads and letting body lay near his burrow. I'm pretty sure he was munching on them, because one end started to turn black and crinkle up overnight. I just never saw it on them. The fruit flies it loved running down. It would race out its burrow grab a few then run back in. It was fun to watch cause he would suck one dry then grab a few more.