B. smithi vs B. annitha

PsyC

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Hey guys. I just bought 1 b. smithi and and 1 b. annitha. I tried to see the differences between them but the only thing I noticed is the colour on the body (can't remember the actual name).
They have both 1cm lengh. The b. smithi is much cheaper than the B. annitha. Can anyone tell me why?

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BobGrill

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Hey guys. I just bought 1 b. smithi and and 1 b. annitha. I tried to see the differences between them but the only thing I noticed is the colour on the body (can't remember the actual name).
They have both 1cm lengh. The b. smithi is much cheaper than the B. annitha. Can anyone tell me why?

Thanks
Because it's way more difficult to find.

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Prle

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I suppose Brachipelma smithi is the most common tarantula in the hobby and thus the most often mated. Also, the average number of slings per sac is high.
 

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I suppose Brachipelma smithi is the most common tarantula in the hobby and thus the most often mated. Also, the average number of slings per sac is high.
G rosea is the most common species in the hobby, bar none. Smithis are just better known as they photograph well.
 

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I suppose Brachipelma smithi is the most common tarantula in the hobby and thus the most often mated.

Of the two, yes, B smithi by far. Although smithi isn't easy to breed and most people don't get sacs.
 

johnny quango

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Hey guys. I just bought 1 b. smithi and and 1 b. annitha. I tried to see the differences between them but the only thing I noticed is the colour on the body (can't remember the actual name).
They have both 1cm lengh. The b. smithi is much cheaper than the B. annitha. Can anyone tell me why?

Thanks
You wont really notice the difference untill they get older then they are a lot easier to tell apart then. I have 1 smithi and 2 annitha slings that are starting to show markings but no colour yet. The carapace is the best way to tell them apart as the smithi contains a lot more black as opposed to the annitha also the annithi as orange that is a lot more vivid leaning more towards the red of the auratum. Finally as adults the annitha in theory should be larger and leggier than the smithi but until then I'd make sure you label them lol
 

Steve123

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They have both 1cm lengh. The b. smithi is much cheaper than the B. annitha. Can anyone tell me why?
Because it's way more difficult to find.
Of the two, yes, B smithi by far. Although smithi isn't easy to breed and most people don't get sacs.
Ditto to Bob’s and Rick’s comments above. Red-legged Brachypelma are much more difficult to breed than their non-red-legged relatives (vagans, albopilosum, etc.). The methods to breeding smithi are known but not so easy to reproduce, and those to breeding annitha are essentially unknown except to a few. Indeed, overseas, annitha and its cousin baumgarteni are considered essentially impossible to breed. That helps explain some of the price differential, but there is more:

This link [CLICK] is to a European site and the advertiser is Herwig Kahlenberg:

100 Brachypelma annitha 2. Frh. Euro 500,-

Frh is fresshaut = molt, 2 Frh = 2nd molt

The above translates to 500€/100 annitha slings, or 5€/sling, or with today’s exchange rate $5.59 US. By the time annitha reach us here in the states we're paying $40-$140 per sling.

I have a feeling your annitha was not captive bred. I presume by the time the annitha sling reached you, the cost per spider was higher, but if you paid more for your annitha than your smithi, geez, how much was the smithi? The distribution of smithi is much larger in Mexico than that of annitha, which brings the cost down markedly--but how much cheaper than 5€ per spider can it get?

I urge all North American breeders to embark on captive bred red-legged Brachypelma to stave off the flow of wild-collected sacs from Mexico.
 

BobGrill

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Ditto to Bob’s and Rick’s comments above. Red-legged Brachypelma are much more difficult to breed than their non-red-legged relatives (vagans, albopilosum, etc.). The methods to breeding smithi are known but not so easy to reproduce, and those to breeding annitha are essentially unknown except to a few. Indeed, overseas, annitha and its cousin baumgarteni are considered essentially impossible to breed. That helps explain some of the price differential, but there is more:

This link [CLICK] is to a European site and the advertiser is Herwig Kahlenberg:

100 Brachypelma annitha 2. Frh. Euro 500,-

Frh is fresshaut = molt, 2 Frh = 2nd molt

The above translates to 500€/100 annitha slings, or 5€/sling, or with today’s exchange rate $5.59 US. By the time annitha reach us here in the states we're paying $40-$140 per sling.

I have a feeling your annitha was not captive bred. I presume by the time the annitha sling reached you, the cost per spider was higher, but if you paid more for your annitha than your smithi, geez, how much was the smithi? The distribution of smithi is much larger in Mexico than that of annitha, which brings the cost down markedly--but how much cheaper than 5€ per spider can it get?

I urge all North American breeders to embark on captive bred red-legged Brachypelma to stave off the flow of wild-collected sacs from Mexico.
That's a good idea. Maybe instead of breeding their rose hairs all the time, more people can focus on breeding less commonly available or difficult to breed species.

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