B hamorii has a very ominous mark on abdomen

[MariaLewisia]

Hi Maria,

I accidentally added a post instead of replying. I added some new pictures. Thank you for following.

No worries, and thank you for the extra pics. I'm keeping my fingers crossed she pulls through.

 

[klawfran3]

Absolutely. Here are some pictures from just now (unless specified otherwise, I did include the arrival day picture my boyfriend had sent me since I had to leave for work).

So far I have done nothing except make sure the water dish is full, which I can refill without disturbing her enclosure with a syringe. She has rotated a few times in that corner. I've been waiting for her to reposition so I can take pictures. View attachment 446897 View attachment 446898 View attachment 446899 View attachment 446900 View attachment 446901 View attachment 446903

I have a similar looking spot on the dorsal side of my E. Murinus' opisthosoma too. Ive been treating her like regular and hoping she molts it out. I wish you the best luck, it sucks to have to worry about it. I can't get photos because she's burrowed deep underground, but she's still alive which is nice.

Also for the photos you took that have the air vents in the container, I thought those were the circles you drew and I stared in them longer than I'd like to admit trying to see the problem in them

 

[fcat]

We're all pulling for her. Hoping she molts that out soon.

She molted last night. The first picture is a few minutes after she peeled her abdomen off. I lightly dusted the clear bulbous looking protrusion, and by lightly I mean arguably ineffectively, I was waiting for her to bump it off my brush as she preened as to not disturb her.

The next two are from just now, about 12 hours post molt. The bulb is still there, still the same color IMO, nothing looked any more "wet" after applying the corn starch versus last night.

She moved after I snapped the last picture. Shes acting spry considering he just molted. I'm not sure what else to do but leave her alone for a while.

 

[fcat]

Forgot to circle the area again. Sorry

 

[IntermittentSygnal]

Aww, man, I'm sorry to see that. It looks like a hemolymph leak that congealed to me, but could be a tumor? Is it at least any smaller than before? It's really good to hear that she is acting normal otherwise. Let's hope she's sealed it off and will be just fine. Please do continue to give us status updates.

 

[fcat]

She graciously provided me with a few post molt ventrals. The arrows aren't pinpoint accuracy as to not obfuscate the view.

Acting normal for post molt behavior, lots of post molt stretches but I did catch her preening and flicking multiple legs, most of them, at the same time. It was erratic. I would liken it to my E cyanognathus sling throwing dirt so hard the sound makes you jump. Except this was all but L3 and L4. Since she kept her balance I'm not calling it uncoordinated. She then remained motionless with her fangs widened/exposed in the same preening position for approximately 2 minutes.

Her water dish has been kept full, I haven't caught her in it but she's kept relatively close on the damp substrate. I keep that corner moist pre molt too. The picture is from the dry corner and is the first time I've seen her on the wall, or dry substrate since before she molted. Still acting normally in my book.

I don't have any top/side profile to add now that she's hardened but will when I get them.

 

[IntermittentSygnal]

It's good to see she looks mostly unbothered by it. Does it seem smaller to you there, or am I just wishful thinking? Could it be something oozing out from her lung? Are her movements back to normal now (leg shaking)? Thank you for updating!

 

[fcat]

It's good to see she looks mostly unbothered by it. Does it seem smaller to you there, or am I just wishful thinking? Could it be something oozing out from her lung? Are her movements back to normal now (leg shaking)? Thank you for updating!

I don't think anything is oozing but that's certainly an accurate description. The pictures are likely doing it justice, but I will say everything but the blob looks better, to me! The blob isnt changing shape from what I can tell but I'm taking pictures each time she gives me a ventral shot so I have more to compare to.

Everything else seems normal... Maybe because I have been keeping her on the lean side or maybe she's feeling better, but her feeding response seems to have improved. I am trying to minimize long ambush distances or fast turns, so I'm dropping the prey in front of her. She usually does...not much.... Now she scampers off a bit but returns immediately and wraps all her legs as she hunkers down on the prey. Everything looks fluid and coordinated. Maybe she's a wee bit slower. I doubt anyone would notice.

 

[IntermittentSygnal]

That’s really great to hear. Please do continue to update us. Looks like you are doing everything possible to give her her best shot and it’s showing in her near normal behavior. She’s lucky to have you!

 

[Pana Lemontzis]

Hello all,

This is one of 6 tarantulas I ordered by mail. I will admit I didn't inspect closely upon initial unpacking, I was looking for signs of a death curl or transit molt and was greeted by lively spiders, friendly at that...no threat poses or hairs kicked, which is not bad considering 5/6 were brachypelmas. I'm mentioning this because they were all smooth transitions and so I don't believe a chance of injury during the rehouse.

This is the hamorii. Last night I noticed the spot from the dorsal view. I haven't tried to disturb her for a better picture but this morning she finally got on the wall.

Nothing looks "wet" despite the glare.

The white seen on the ventral view is not glare/reflection. The fading of her abdomen markings is not an illusion/lighting. On the dorsal view, there is a raised lighter ring circling a depression, it looks like a tiny (dry) apple seed in color and sheen. That lighter tissue almost looks stretched creating "rays" of tissue/texture, giving me the feeling like it has been there a while and her abdomen is growing since. I can't tell if those marks that look like "scratches" are on her or substrate.

Her behavior seems normal...I guess I would call her friendly and that isn't a word I would normally describe. Chill, curious, cooperative. She drank water the first night, moved moss into her dish the next morning. I gave her a live cricket last night, and in the process of watching it cohabitate with her, that's when I saw the spot. I decided to kill the cricket and leave it, since I don't know *her* feeding response, and she seemed to be more focused on webbing the air while I had the lid off. I put the lid on, and within a minute she was eating the cricket.

Sorry for the rambling. I'm worried sick and this is my first problem out of 23 Ts. I have cornstarch and betadine handy if anyone knows what they are looking at.

I did email the breeder. Not sure how that will help but she was the freebie [confirmed female hamorii] after meeting a sizeable minimum order.


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Imo doesnt look like its anything bad

 

[MariaLewisia]

She graciously provided me with a few post molt ventrals. The arrows aren't pinpoint accuracy as to not obfuscate the view.

Acting normal for post molt behavior, lots of post molt stretches but I did catch her preening and flicking multiple legs, most of them, at the same time. It was erratic. I would liken it to my E cyanognathus sling throwing dirt so hard the sound makes you jump. Except this was all but L3 and L4. Since she kept her balance I'm not calling it uncoordinated. She then remained motionless with her fangs widened/exposed in the same preening position for approximately 2 minutes.

Her water dish has been kept full, I haven't caught her in it but she's kept relatively close on the damp substrate. I keep that corner moist pre molt too. The picture is from the dry corner and is the first time I've seen her on the wall, or dry substrate since before she molted. Still acting normally in my book.

I don't have any top/side profile to add now that she's hardened but will when I get them.

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Thank you so much for the update! I kept my fingers crossed that she'd pull through so I'm very pleased to see her again.

As for the bump, well it's... something. I've seen and felt a lot of bumps in my life (work in vet med) but even then there's no telling for sure what anything is unless you take a biopsy and/or aspirate. Invertebrate medicine is a whole different (almost nonexistent) thing so all we can really do is guess what is going on. To me, it doesn't look like a "pop-able" cyst, more like a solid mass that's not part of the exo. Otherwise it wouldn't have looked so fleshy when she was freshly moulted (tarantula meat is an almost translucent off white colour and can have a slight blueish tint from the hemolymph). But that's just speculation and all we can really do is hope it doesn't grow too much, pop, or get in the way of the next exoskeleton. One moult at a time.