B. Albo temp
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That's really not a good temp for any tarantulas, with the exception of maybe Megaphobema...
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yeah my Ts went down to 66 degrees once.. they were lathargic & slow.. might be why my one N cromatis died for no reason.. Once I got a heater they were happy & fine during wintertime
can Megaphema genus really take 63 degrees?? they are tuff spiders!!!
can Megaphema genus really take 63 degrees?? they are tuff spiders!!!
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My Curly Hair has a tamp range from about 70-85 in it's tank and I usually see it in the 74-76 temp range.
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Temps of low 60°s are too low. You want to be low to mid 70°s for albopilosum.
Check the natural temps in the region where your species of interest live. Your 'rose haired' is from Chile, whilst B.albopilosum is from honduras, nicaragua and northern costa rica. These regions have a very different climate to Chile.
On this wiki page is climate data suitable for B.albopilosum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Ceiba
or here, less useful
http://www.holidaycheck.com/climate-wetter_La+Ceiba-ebene_oid-id_29429.html
But, dont go near the extreeme temps listed, especially avoid the highs. Why? These tarantulas live in burrows underground while the temps are airtemps. The burrows buffer the temps (and humidity) to maintain a cooler burrow than airtemp (dark and cool deep inside), and actually the burrows also retain warmth above the coolest airtemps (the ground retains warmth from sun better than air). So, when temps drop everyday at nighttime, the ground stays warm well into the night when the air gets cold quickly....
So.. for this species, keeping an average of about mid 70°s is about right, warming upto high 70°s/lowest 80°s in the summer. TMRKD, i'd say mid 80°s is going too hot, whilst the low 60°s of NickC4 is much too low. That could be harmful to albopilosum, particularly if over long periods, with low temps the spider will become slow and unresponsive, and stop feeding. Death is likely.
Here is climatic data suitable for G.rosea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valparaíso
now compare that to the one from La Ceiba for albopilosum. Much lower temperatures in Valparasio, Chile - so mid 60°s, say average 65°s is even quite ideal for such species, whilst higher is less desirable. But, B.albopilosum need it to be much warmer, as above.
ps. If for Megaphobema you also mean the species mesomelas and peterklaasi, those will happily tolerate lows towards 55°C, whilst mid 60°s or lower are actually ideal, upto a max of 70°s
Check the natural temps in the region where your species of interest live. Your 'rose haired' is from Chile, whilst B.albopilosum is from honduras, nicaragua and northern costa rica. These regions have a very different climate to Chile.
On this wiki page is climate data suitable for B.albopilosum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Ceiba
or here, less useful
http://www.holidaycheck.com/climate-wetter_La+Ceiba-ebene_oid-id_29429.html
But, dont go near the extreeme temps listed, especially avoid the highs. Why? These tarantulas live in burrows underground while the temps are airtemps. The burrows buffer the temps (and humidity) to maintain a cooler burrow than airtemp (dark and cool deep inside), and actually the burrows also retain warmth above the coolest airtemps (the ground retains warmth from sun better than air). So, when temps drop everyday at nighttime, the ground stays warm well into the night when the air gets cold quickly....
So.. for this species, keeping an average of about mid 70°s is about right, warming upto high 70°s/lowest 80°s in the summer. TMRKD, i'd say mid 80°s is going too hot, whilst the low 60°s of NickC4 is much too low. That could be harmful to albopilosum, particularly if over long periods, with low temps the spider will become slow and unresponsive, and stop feeding. Death is likely.
Here is climatic data suitable for G.rosea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valparaíso
now compare that to the one from La Ceiba for albopilosum. Much lower temperatures in Valparasio, Chile - so mid 60°s, say average 65°s is even quite ideal for such species, whilst higher is less desirable. But, B.albopilosum need it to be much warmer, as above.
ps. If for Megaphobema you also mean the species mesomelas and peterklaasi, those will happily tolerate lows towards 55°C, whilst mid 60°s or lower are actually ideal, upto a max of 70°s
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wow, you have been sooooooooooooo helpful. i feel stupid for not looking at the place's original temps, WHERE THEY LIVE AND SURVIVE!
Thank you,
nick
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I have to disagree with what you've said my room is in the 60s right now and my Ts are doing just fine. Tarantulas are very adaptable creatures so *hypothetically* you can take them to right above freezing and they will live just really slowly. So they actually will take better to cold spells rather than heat.
Really? Is your room low 60's?
And is it like that most of the day?
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Oh yeah it's like mid 50s outside (at night upper 70s in the day), and we've kept the ac running so my rough guess is that it's mid to low 60s 24/7 maybe even dips into the upper 50s sometimes. Suspecting you're rather new to the hobby and it's the season for giving I would try to pick up a copy of the Tarantula Keepers Guide by Schultz and Schultz 3rd edition is about $20 now and is one of the best things a new hobbyist can read (in my opinion) and it has some really nice big glossy pictures 
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:sarcasm: Cold makes things harden up right?
Yeah, I picked up that at the library when I was first considering a T. It helped me a ton. So your t's are fine at those temps? And do you kick up the temp for molts? Sorry to ask so many questions but I don't want to get my second T only to kill it.
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In the 60s and 70s yeah I don't bump anything up, Sean was talking about towards freezing. Ts are more durable than you think.
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My turn to chime in.
Allowing a tarantula to go to low temperatures is always a risk. And, the lower the temperature, the greater the risk. Allowing any tarantula to go below the 60s F (15 C) is very risky, but if it can't be helped (e.g., a power outage and you have no heat in your home in mid winter), it simply can't be helped. It is ALWAYS presumed that you will make every effort to correct the problem ASAP.
I'm not sure that anyone has had sufficient experience to predict what would happen if you took a very cold tarantula and suddenly warmed it up. Humans can go into shock and die, but tarantulas have a radically different anatomy and physiology.
And, allowing a tarantula to go to such a low temperature is always assumed to be only a temporary thing, a matter of hours or a few days at most. But, Marguerite and I have had limited experience keeping tarantulas in the 60s F (15 to 20 C) for long periods of time (4 to 5 months) with no ill effects beyond a driving hunger when they warm back up.
Lastly, when tarantulas are allowed to cool below some as yet undetermined, critical temperature, probably different for each species, their physiological processes shift from "slow mode" (their normal state) to a "super slow mode" wherein almost everything stops. They maintain a very slow pulse, but barely move except to drink once in a long while. And even then they move with great difficulty. Under these conditions they no longer eat or molt. All the "big stuff" that they do is postponed until warm weather arrives. So, surviving a molt at low temperatures probably just wouldn't happen except by purest accident.
Oops! Battery's going dead! Gotta go.
EDIT: The red highlighted sentence is NOT CORRECT. I was unable to correct it before my battery went dead. What I intended to say was that a tarantula that was preparing to molt simply would stop midstream and wait until the temperature rose into some "acceptable" range. Thus, a molt wouldn't occur at those low temperatures except by sheerest accident (e.g., the power going out simultaneously with the tarantula flipping on its back when outdoor temperatures were cold enough to cool the house significantly in less than an hour or two).
What might that "acceptable" temperature range be? Because this has never been recorded as happening we can only guess. Probably somewhere above the mid or high 60s F. But that's just an educated guess, not verifiable fact.
Sorry if I caused any confusion.
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just go for it... hell, get 2 or 3. B. albopilosum is actually a really cool t/sling. i got mine as a freebie when i bought my 1st P. regalis sling. this curly is a real aggressive eater, and is always in the open. in 8 months that ive had it, its grown from .25" to around 3.5" to 4". pretty fast for a brachy. ******to answer your ? about temps.... i keep mine in the mid to high 70s (maybe let it cool a bit at night) and, aside from the waterdish, no additional humidity other than like a once every 10 day LIGHT misting . between the temps and the powerfeeding (this one gets fed alot) thats prob why its gettin so big so fast