Avic Avic not eating and white around mouth

grimarachnids

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I've had my avic avic for about a year now, got it from a local who was moving and it's been eating well (only straight from tongs) this whole time until a few months ago, maybe a few months after its first molt with me. It's usually hiding in its cork bark but tonight it came fully out onto the glass and i noticed this dry white substance around its mouth?? It has come out a few times onto the bark and i've noticed the abdomen getting smaller and smaller and now this :( Every time i try to feed it when it's out, it just backs away when it's usually ate so well. I haven't noticed any mites on it, or in the water and it definitely doesn't look like what i've seen of nematodes online. Pics of the poor thing and also a picture of the enclosure (i took out the aloe a long time ago, not sure if it was appropriate or not but the plant did not thrive) IMG_7327.jpeg IMG_7328.jpeg IMG_7329.jpeg IMG_3336.jpeg
 

Ultum4Spiderz

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It’s alarmingly skinny I’d check its pedipalps make sure it’s not a mature male I cannot tell from the pictures. Definitely feed it more if it’s not one. Not sure how it’s finding food that cage is massive.
 

Hardus nameous

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It doesn't look like a mature male to me; I don't see palpal bulbs in the first three pictures.

I see a water cup but have you tried putting a few drops of water on the glass near the spider? I had one that refused to use a water dish and wouldn't eat when it got dehydrated.

This enclosure has a front opening door right? I just want to be sure it's not one of those bugariums with no ventilation on the sides. Avics need that cross ventilation.

The white around the mouth could possibly be faeces or regurgitation.
 

Mike41793

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I'd rehouse to a smaller enclosure that one is wicked large for a spider that size
 

darkness975

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Possibly dehydrated. It may not be using the substrate level water dish.
 

Moakmeister

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I've noticed that a few of my tarantulas have a small amount of white around their mouths too. Not nearly as much as this one, but a bit of it. Do they munch on their own feces? Why would they do that?
 
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