asf has been lost for 3 months and found today. seems to have dks of some sorts?

Ig92

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do you have an ir thermometer? or better yet, a probe? you could take a before/after measurement to get an idea of the change, and grade that against the non heated side to get an idea of what kind of increases you may have gotten. Use this data to determine if you need a heat lamp to supplement, or replace.
I have a probe somewhere. ill go look
 

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do you have an ir thermometer? or better yet, a probe? you could take a before/after measurement to get an idea of the change, and grade that against the non heated side to get an idea of what kind of increases you may have gotten. Use this data to determine if you need a heat lamp to supplement, or replace.
I have a probe somewhere. ill go look
do you have an ir thermometer? or better yet, a probe? you could take a before/after measurement to get an idea of the change, and grade that against the non heated side to get an idea of what kind of increases you may have gotten. Use this data to determine if you need a heat lamp to supplement, or replace.
I guess i only have a probe that's attached to a thermostat. i put it in and set it to 26 C. I am doubtful it wont be enough. Also i am poor until Tuesday due to rent. Will that be good for this? I appreciate all your feedback and help btw
 

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Hard to say, still can't rule out poisoning or getting into something that would've had chronic effects. My personal recommendation is give her a big enough water dish to soak in, Heterometrus will soak when provided with a deep enough dish and rehydrating her is definitely the number one priority. Have you noticed her drinking out of the dish you've provided for her so far? I would also recommend extra heat, typically I keep my scorpions around 80F depending on where they're from. I don't know of any specific first aid for this instance in particular but with dehydrated or sick tarantulas and scorpions typically you would make an ICU container, which is moist paper towels and placing it under or near a heat lamp to keep it warm for a few days to see if they recover. That wouldn't be necessary in this case because she's still active enough that she can drink and thermoregulate by herself, so yea deep water dish and some extra heat would be my recommendation.
Would you have any sort of timeframe for i guess saying like oh this scorpion needs to be put down or just a waiting game. At this point i am fairly certain its some sort of poisoning. The only thing it could be is dawn dish soap or bleach not that it matters really. I now have 2 small water dishes on the ends and a big one in the middle with a heat pad set with thermostat set on one end and 1 in the middle of tank(possibly overkill) and a crappy Reptizoo dual gauge hydrometer/thermometer set on the hot side to make sure its not going to cook. still haven't seen her actually drink. The locomotion problems are exactly the same from when i originally found her. So she doesn't seem to be getting worse, but not better either.
 

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The video container appears to be a .mp4 file. It plays in the chrome browser for me without any issues if that helps.
Turns out I'm just so lagged connecting to AB the data didn't fully download. Government here chokes various web sites. Prob thinks AB is involved in animal trafficking.

Its just from my files taken from an android phone. Forgive me I am not terribly tech savvy
Me neither. I've never been inclined to become video savvy.
 

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I have a probe somewhere. ill go look

I guess i only have a probe that's attached to a thermostat. i put it in and set it to 26 C. I am doubtful it wont be enough. Also i am poor until Tuesday due to rent. Will that be good for this? I appreciate all your feedback and help btw
as long as its accurate and will prevent your heat mat from overheating you should be ok. make sure its as close as you can possibly get it to the heat mat. if its too far away, it could present a fire hazard.
 

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Would you have any sort of timeframe for i guess saying like oh this scorpion needs to be put down or just a waiting game. At this point i am fairly certain its some sort of poisoning. The only thing it could be is dawn dish soap or bleach not that it matters really. I now have 2 small water dishes on the ends and a big one in the middle with a heat pad set with thermostat set on one end and 1 in the middle of tank(possibly overkill) and a crappy Reptizoo dual gauge hydrometer/thermometer set on the hot side to make sure its not going to cook. still haven't seen her actually drink. The locomotion problems are exactly the same from when i originally found her. So she doesn't seem to be getting worse, but not better either.
thats up to you honestly, its really hard to say when to call it. def see if the extra water and heat help, if she isnt eating or drinking and isnt improving she might die on her own soon anyway to be perfectly honest.
 

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thats up to you honestly, its really hard to say when to call it. def see if the extra water and heat help, if she isnt eating or drinking and isnt improving she might die on her own soon anyway to be perfectly honest.
I will keep this setup solid and monitor it for a week or so. its just such a shame to have been so resilient through the winter months for this. i will probably attempt an icu after that and may have questions, but fingers crossed thank you for your insights. if it she wont eat i cant really force a molt either.
 

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I will keep this setup solid and monitor it for a week or so. its just such a shame to have been so resilient through the winter months for this. i will probably attempt an icu after that and may have questions, but fingers crossed thank you for your insights. if it she wont eat i cant really force a molt either.
ICU doesn't work.
 

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ICU doesn't work.
I was doing my pass through today on them, and someone gave me a zebra jumper and i found a what i think to be a gravid bold jumper the other day. either way i was setting up tubs for them and i saw the scorpion is on its side/back. so I am optimistic of a molt? i haven't had a ton of them, but Ive only seen them die in like a normal standing position. so maybe good news or at least i sped up her death so she wasn't suffering. time will tell i guess
 

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I was doing my pass through today on them, and someone gave me a zebra jumper and i found a what i think to be a gravid bold jumper the other day. either way i was setting up tubs for them and i saw the scorpion is on its side/back. so I am optimistic of a molt? i haven't had a ton of them, but Ive only seen them die in like a normal standing position. so maybe good news or at least i sped up her death so she wasn't suffering. time will tell i guess
It's probably dead, sorry to say. I would give it a couple days, maybe 3, if nothing changes then freezer time I guess. Being dehydrated for 3 months isn't exactly the best build up to a molt.
 

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I was doing my pass through today on them, and someone gave me a zebra jumper and i found a what i think to be a gravid bold jumper the other day. either way i was setting up tubs for them and i saw the scorpion is on its side/back. so I am optimistic of a molt? i haven't had a ton of them, but Ive only seen them die in like a normal standing position. so maybe good news or at least i sped up her death so she wasn't suffering. time will tell i guess
Sounds like it died.
 

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As a final conclusion. unfortunately she has passed. Thank you all for your help and insights. i guess the moral of the story is make sure my enclosures are more secure.
 
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