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Just wondering thats all
Well iv heard this for most reptiless buttt i also heard los of things about aged cedar and what not. pretty much i haev this cedar wall thing that was used ina log cabin toy like 5 years ago. i washed it and was using is as a ledge for my arboreal t. I was wondering if its okThe oils in cedar and pine wood are toxic to spiders.
I bet you really felt bad. Wow. Thats a hard lesson to learn.I had ceader in the room, a 100 year old chest, I lost 30 T's in 3 days! Just from it being in the room, I removed it and have lost 10 since, 3 years latter most of them old MM.
I find this really really hard to believe. There are no special poison vapors being put off by a cedar chest. Maybe if the chest got soaking wet and then you let your T wander around all over it maybe I could see something happening maybe. But you just bringing in a cedar chest into the room and then having T's die like that is are not related in my opinion.I had ceader in the room, a 100 year old chest, I lost 30 T's in 3 days! Just from it being in the room, I removed it and have lost 10 since, 3 years latter most of them old MM.
Also, pseudo scorps live in pine.So here's a relevant question... Those mass produced 1/2 logs a lot of people use for hides; what are they made of? It looks like some kind of pine to me. Aren't all pines potentially harmful?
I find this really really hard to believe. There are no special poison vapors being put off by a cedar chest.QUOTE]
There are many species of cedar and typically those old chests were lined with aromatic cedar which was selected specifically for its insecticidal properties, especially to repel moths. I could see it affecting T's in a closed environment even after a 100 years. You can still buy it today in thin slats to line chests and closets etc and it is very aromatic.
Ollie
So here's a relevant question... Those mass produced 1/2 logs a lot of people use for hides; what are they made of? It looks like some kind of pine to me. Aren't all pines potentially harmful?
Pine is toxic to Boids, if there is no warning on the lable, surely those hides arn't pine, right:?Damn good question. I have two in my tanks and wondered the same thing. I have had one of those logs in with my rosie for about 14 months and she is fine. BUT I wondered (well after the fact) if it could harm T's.
I happen to have an unused log with the lable still on it, and it just says natural wood, doesn't tell ya what kind, but the bark looks similar to pine, however it does NOT have that strong pine smell, I have cut down my fare share of pine trees, and the wood smells for years after being cut.
I have recently purchased a large quantity of cork bark and am using it exclusively, but my rosie still has that chunk of wood.
Regarding original post, if you know that its pine or cedar, it can harm your T.
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I wouln't bank on it, pet stores sell pine chips with no warning on them whatsoever. How many new hobbyists show pics of there set-ups with pine chips only to have hobbyists point it out imediately.Pine is toxic to Boids, if there is no warning on the lable, surely those hides arn't pine, right:?
Yep, so trueI wouln't bank on it, pet stores sell pine chips with no warning on them whatsoever. How many new hobbyists show pics of there set-ups with pine chips only to have hobbyists point it out imediately.
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