Are P Regalis ' docile " ?

[louise f]

**** That's what I thought but, I wanted to be sure. I saw an experienced T-Caretaker, whose son has a pokey; and if little kids can
have them, I wondered how they were with adults. That's what made me question that species.

If a parent let a little kid have a pokie, it is bad parenting for sure, i wound not let my kids have spiders like that. Not for one second.

 

[MissyMaguire]

While my regalis has never tried to bite me, she has tried to escape several times,

I guess that's another question I have.....if you leave the lid on the fish tank ( which is what I will have when I get my first T,
how do they escape? Do they try to get out when you feed them or?

 

[lalberts9310]

It was quite easy to deduce that she meant "if youre hellbent on getting a poeci and disregard our advice, at least get a sling". I dont understand all the jumpiness with Ts. Not like people are buying cobras or rattlesnakes.

Also, I never worked my way up. Hadnt even owned a NW arboreal before getting my regalis sling.

Not every person is like you angel, like it or not advising an OW for a beginner is bad advice, I don't care if you started out with one, it doesn't mean everyone else should or will be able to handle it..

You don't understand the "jumpiness" because you never took any consequences into consideration.. consequences if a child, elder, toddler or someone besides the owner got bit because the T escaped from a rehouse attempt gone wrong, all because the owner had lack of experience..

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**** That's what I thought but, I wanted to be sure. I saw an experienced T-Caretaker, whose son has a pokey; and if little kids can
have them, I wondered how they were with adults. That's what made me question that species.

It's irresponsible for people to allow their little kids to have a poeci, unless the parents are experienced keepers and keeps the T on lock and key, do maintenance, feeding and rehouses and only allows their little child to look at it...

 

[TsunamiSpike]

If she buys it from a sling and it starts getting too bad, she can always sell it or give it away.

Ts aren't video games, can't just but then and sell them if you don't like them. Plus if you use the mindset that you might be selling it even a few months down the line you'll make less of an effort.

 

[lalberts9310]

I guess that's another question I have.....if you leave the lid on the fish tank ( which is what I will have when I get my first T,
how do they escape? Do they try to get out when you feed them or?

That's just it, beginner Ts are less prone or rarely tries to escape, where with a poeci you'll have a bolting T everytime you touch the enclosure.. they run laps around the enclosure and whenever the lid is open they easily escape from the enclosure, and this happens during maintenance, feeding and rehousing.. with poecis you always run this risk when you open the lid, it's a huge possibility due to their stamina and speed and they get startled easily by light and any kind of vibration you may cause when touching their enclosures, WHY they are NOT suited as a beginner T, and then they possess bad venom as well, you don't want a poeci escape that ends up tagging one of your animals or someone else, children, toddlers, and elders will end up in hospital and for animals it can possibly be fatal, think of the consequences, newspapers with a front page stating "child bitten by deadly tarantula, ends up in hospital", a public and community that hates spiders, anti exotic groups, government will step in and ban the species, genus or tarantulas in the whole to "protect" the public, they don't care about this hobby, they don't care about our spiders, and being irresponsible will give them a reason to do what they want.. NW terrestrials, they are much more calm, less prone to get startled or bolt, and they don't have the stamina and speed a poeci possess, they also don't have bad venom... why they are perfect for beginners

 

[Angel Minkov]

I never advised getting a Poeci. If you check my first post, I advised against it. Also, Tsunami, it wont be the first case of someone selling/giving out a Poeci or OW, so its not hard to get rid of it either. Your mentality is wrong.

 

[lalberts9310]

I never advised getting a Poeci. If you check my first post, I advised against it. Also, Tsunami, it wont be the first case of someone selling/giving out a Poeci or OW, so its not hard to get rid of it either. Your mentality is wrong.

It's still not fair to the spider to have it and later decide you don't want it because your afraid of it, it will be neglected before it finds a new home

 

[awiec]

I guess that's another question I have.....if you leave the lid on the fish tank ( which is what I will have when I get my first T,
how do they escape? Do they try to get out when you feed them or?

Fish tanks make poor enclosures, unless you have a way to drill glass, as these spiders live in the trees and are used to air flow. As for escape, you do have to open the lid eventually and that movement startles the spider and it takes off. I have a P.metallica that will dash around the cage, throw threat poses and bite at the side of the cage if you even get near the cage. I still feed and water it as I have enough experience to deal with it, but it would be a disaster for a newbie. This sling started out as "nice" but turned nasty after a random molt, you can't predict personalities of spiders.

 

[Poec54]

Fish tanks make poor enclosures, unless you have a way to drill glass, as these spiders live in the trees and are used to air flow. As for escape, you do have to open the lid eventually and that movement startles the spider and it takes off. I have a P.metallica that will dash around the cage, throw threat poses and bite at the side of the cage if you even get near the cage. I still feed and water it as I have enough experience to deal with it, but it would be a disaster for a newbie. This sling started out as "nice" but turned nasty after a random molt, you can't predict personalities of spiders.

You've had excellent insights throughout this thread.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Yes, I know I can just "google" different information that I need but......sigh....before I do that, since most of what you read "on the intarwebz" is about 60% not true, I wanted to ask you guys first.

I just saw a GORGEOUS short 15 second home video of someone's P Regalis. OMG, I'm Deeeeeaaaaaad LOL <3

PLEASE tell me this species are for beginners and are docile. If not, it's totally ok because that just means I won't
be getting that species when the time comes.

So I guess I wanted to see what you guys had to say first.

Thanks

Hello there. No way they are. I doesn't think even exists an OW arboreal "docile". With some OW obligate burrowers, if housed well in a big enclosure with at least 25 cm of substrate, since they completely disappear, (example, my Pelinobius muticus doesn't really "feel" the need to bolt out of her cage .. she love her tunnels) the whole situation of general husbandry (refill the water dish, for example) can be less "fearful" compared to deal with a fast as light, unpredictable Poecilotheria; still even them (OW obligate burrowers of my example) are not for beginners as well.
To be honest in my opinion would also not even recommend the so called "poor man's pokies" (Psalmopoeus genus) to beginners.
Beginners arboreals are Avics.

 

[MrsHaas]

Fish tanks make poor enclosures, unless you have a way to drill glass, as these spiders live in the trees and are used to air flow. As for escape, you do have to open the lid eventually and that movement startles the spider and it takes off. I have a P.metallica that will dash around the cage, throw threat poses and bite at the side of the cage if you even get near the cage. I still feed and water it as I have enough experience to deal with it, but it would be a disaster for a newbie. This sling started out as "nice" but turned nasty after a random molt, you can't predict personalities of spiders.

This is very true, I have had really nice Ts that have turned out to be real buttholes after a molt.

 

[Poec54]

This is very true, I have had really nice Ts that have turned out to be real buttholes after a molt.

That's a superficial way to look at it. They're not domesticated animals, they're not on this planet for our amusement. They've evolved physical features and behavior that improves their survival rate in their native habitat. That's the playbook they go by, no matter where they are. To expect them to be well-behaved pets in your home isn't something that was intended, nor should it be expected.

I prefer defensive spiders. They're usually much more interesting than the ones that just sit there like a boiled potato. Challenging our intrusions means they feel 'at home' and are settling in. It's their cage, you have the rest of the house.

 

[MrsHaas]

"Superficial" or not, it's the truth. To each their own. I like mine calm. Nothing wrong with that.



--J.Haas

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That said... I'm not saying I don't have any meanies and that I have a problem w ts w attitudes. I love them all the same. It's unrealistic to assume ur ts have personalities u can depend on.



--J.Haas

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U just said they weren't here for amusement but then u say ur defensive spiders are more amusing to u. A bit of a contradiction



--J.Haas

 

[Angel Minkov]

I agree with Rick. I like my spiders feisty, but not too much. I love it that I have a juvie female B. smithi which fits the "boiled potato" description perfectly. I could throw a nuke next to her an she wouldn't bat an eye.

 

[MrsHaas]

Like I said it's a personal preference.



--J.Haas

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We need not fight ab it



--J.Haas

 

[BobGrill]

Where's the OP?

 

[Angel Minkov]

I wasn't refuting what you say. I agree it all comes down to individuality. People around here don't feel comfortable with jumping into OWs unless they have a lot of experience with Psalms, for example, but I only had a B. vagans and L. striatipes when I started collecting the whole genus. Now I have 8 species, 0 escapes and I feel perfectly comfortable with mine. By the way, I'd like to throw this at all the people who want to plunge into Pokies - do it from the smallest size possible. I can tell you from experience, the speed and agility of adults compared to that of juveniles and even sub-adults is phenomenal. Just my 2 cents

 

[lalberts9310]

Yep, all personal preference, and everyone has a right to it.. I'm with Rick, I also have a thing for feisty spiders

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U just said they weren't here for amusement but then u say ur defensive spiders are more amusing to u. A bit of a contradiction



--J.Haas

He said interesting, big difference between interesting and amusing...

 

[MrsHaas]

There's a difference btw "interesting" and "encouraging" too.

But I really hold no hostility over this issue. I think everyone should do what their gut says. If u don't like jumpy or agressive stick to ur guns!



--J.Haas

 

[lalberts9310]

There's a difference btw "interesting" and "encouraging" too.


--J.Haas

I really don't know what you're actually trying to say here...