Anyone know of Centruroides limbatus available?

[rasputin]

According to Rasputin, I was talking about C. margaritatus "bicolor" morph.

I didn't run on a tangent did I? I thought I was responding to some specific questions but if I did run on a tangent, I'm sorry. At any rate we did kinda hijack this thread but I don't think the op is too overly concerned (at least, I hope not ) as the initial question was answered.

Since it's just a morphological as opposed to genetic difference, it's easier to just call is C. margaritatus. One of the things i ran into earlier last year was people actually calling the morph a C. bicolor and there was a bit of taxonomic debate over it. It got cleared up though as many of us noted the differences between C. bicolor and C. margaritatus "bicolor".

 

[rasputin]

Well maybe they ship, I bet they do. Yeah, they are pretty cheap, man I hope they don't read this or they will raise their prices. People could email and get a full list, there is much more there than listed on the site. I know they need to move some stuff, that's what I was told last time I was there.

Then you'll do my shopping for me, right? hahahahaha

 

[Taryllton]

I didn't run on a tangent did I? I thought I was responding to some specific questions but if I did run on a tangent, I'm sorry. At any rate we did kinda hijack this thread but I don't think the op is too overly concerned (at least, I hope not ) as the initial question was answered.

Since it's just a morphological as opposed to genetic difference, it's easier to just call is C. margaritatus. One of the things i ran into earlier last year was people actually calling the morph a C. bicolor and there was a bit of taxonomic debate over it. It got cleared up though as many of us noted the differences between C. bicolor and C. margaritatus "bicolor".

Oh I don't think anyone would begrudge your posts, even if they were tangential to the OP. You answered my questions perfectly and I found it extremely informative. I was considering starting my own thread to see if someone could make sense of the whole "margaritatus-complex" thing for me, but you've squared it away quite nicely, I think.

 

[rasputin]

Oh I don't think anyone would begrudge your posts, even if they were tangential to the OP. You answered my questions perfectly and I found it extremely informative. I was considering starting my own thread to see if someone could make sense of the whole "margaritatus-complex" thing for me, but you've squared it away quite nicely, I think.

Glad I could take care of that for you.

 

[Galapoheros]

I'm too busy Hey everybody, The Zookeeper DOES ship inverts, I just got a "yes we do" in an email. I don't know why they don't advertise on the internet more.

 

[freeman]

well i just mated my female but i dont know it was succesfull so i will repeat it soon.

 

[keqwow]

:drool: :drool: :drool: Why do you need to live in Poland?

 

[rasputin]

well i just mated my female but i dont know it was succesfull so i will repeat it soon.

Do you not keep them communally? I'd leave them together, they're communal - just make sure they're fed and they'll breed. Nature finds its way.

 

[freeman]

i just got male today so i am keeping them communaly from now on. i'm only affraid that female might molt again and end as a meal.

 

[rasputin]

i just got male today so i am keeping them communaly from now on. i'm only affraid that female might molt again and end as a meal.

Ah, that makes sense.

Their colors are opposite of the sexual dimorphism of this species - are you absolutely certain that they are C. limbatus?

 

[freeman]

Yes as far as i know they are both C.limbatus. This species is polymorphic so even in 1 brood youc an have both very dark and bright individuals.

 

[rasputin]

Yes as far as i know they are both C.limbatus. This species is polymorphic so even in 1 brood youc an have both very dark and bright individuals.

Interesting, I was under the impression that the color variation was a sexual dimorphism. I haven't read an ID key for them so I can't say that I'm 100% anyways.

 

[freeman]

this is the same male from my pics with very dark female:

in fact this female is mother of my female

 

[rasputin]

in fact this female is mother of my female

Nice, that is quite the morphological difference. That female is quite stunning!

 

[Galapoheros]

Thanks for posting those extra pics. It happened to help me out a little more, sitting on the sideline, kept me thinking. Looking at these pics along with looking at the others and several more on the net, I don't have C. limbatus, in case anybody was wondering too. I think there was some miscommunication down the line to the pet store they are in where they were originally labeled C. bicolor. I'm now pretty sure they are the bicolor morph of C. margaritatus. I think "bicolor" was accidentally taken as the species name quoted by a park ranger in Costa Rica, instead of the description of a C. margaritatus morph ..makes sense to me now. It was going that way in an older thread but now I'm pretty sure of it since I can see how the mistake may have happened. Nice scorps you have!, hope to see baby pics later!

 

[Michiel]

Yes, you are 100% right it is the Androctonus amoreuxi morph of the Lychas burdoi variation of the Centruroides imperator morph yes. :wall: :wall:

There is no C.margaritatus bicolor morph and there are only a bazillion threads about this subject on here.

 

[rasputin]

Yes, you are 100% right it is the Androctonus amoreuxi morph of the Lychas burdoi variation of the Centruroides imperator morph yes. :wall: :wall:

There is no C.margaritatus bicolor morph and there are only a bazillion threads about this subject on here.

Mivhael,

The red color variant of C. margaritatus is the bicolor morph as it has been coined, is it not?

As seen here:

 

[Michiel]

Mivhael,

The red color variant of C. margaritatus is the bicolor morph as it has been coined, is it not?

As seen here:

Ras,

Aren't WE in a cheeky mood today? Ya gatz ta be shitting me, man, I am not going to say anything serious, cuz ya obviously pullin' me leg

Fo shizzle,

Michiel

 

[Jacek Szubert]

Heya guys,

Here's fresh pic of my female giving birth. Maybe tomorrow I'll be able to get better quality - my cell phone camera doesn't cope very well with artificial lighting...

Actually it's the same dark female which picture freeman posted before, mated with lighter male from the same pic. It's her 4th brood, usually those broods are pretty numerous - one time even 35. On this picture there are a little less, but worth to add that she's still giving bitrth. All of her kids are somewhere in European hobbyist [most in Norway i guess ;]. I think it shouldn't be any problem with popularization this great species - it's not hard to raise, and as you can see very prolific.

Jacek.

 

[freeman]

Heya guys,

Here's fresh pic of my female giving birth. Maybe tomorrow I'll be able to get better quality - my cell phone camera doesn't cope very well with artificial lighting...

Actually it's the same dark female which picture freeman posted before, mated with lighter male from the same pic. It's her 4th brood, usually those broods are pretty numerous - one time even 35. On this picture there are a little less, but worth to add that she's still giving bitrth. All of her kids are somewhere in European hobbyist [most in Norway i guess ;]. I think it shouldn't be any problem with popularization this great species - it's not hard to raise, and as you can see very prolific.

Jacek.

congrats. i can't wait for my female to pop