Animal Planet low down?

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Food for thought?

Halfawake ramblings.
Some people, and this includes the vast majority of the people on AB, honestly care about the health and well being of animals. The animal's existence has gone beyond being a show piece and awakens or promotes the persons higher qualities of care and concern, and in turn, interest and knowledge of the greater world around them. This is what attracted me to AB to begin with. The often overlooked little details which so many here are keenly aware of. Hundreds of little facts and info bits that snags ones brain and says, 'Hey! Check this out! Amazing world, isn't it?'.

Alongside this is animal exploitation. Bull fights. Cock fights. Check out my bad ass pit-bull and so on. A whole heck of a lot of the animosity voiced here on AB is resentment for what a person perceives as exploitation. Let's be clear about what is meant by that word. Essentially, the antithesis of care and concern. Pandering, to cater to, a persons baser instincts. Be it massive insecurity that motivates keeping and training a bitemonster, or observing or causing pain, humiliation or degradation of an animal.

The two above aspects can be very close or even overlap. It is often a persons perception of that decides which category the treatment of the animal is placed in. The lines get blurred. It happens though this is very odd. The highest quality a person can have, compassion, and the lowest, standing side by side.

And along come shows like animal planet. Animal Planet is an example, a very good one in fact, of one quality of human nature being traded for or even masquerading as the other. In this case an obvious degree of greed and avarice has insidiously invaded what started out to be an informative program promoting the understanding of our fellow animals and turned it into the purely profit making venture we see today.

Perceptions. Discerning. The degree of dignity of a being. I'll head straight into the existential to close this drivel.

"The truth forced itself on him in all its cold, brutal reality. Muspel
was no all-powerful Universe, tolerating from pure indifference the
existence side by side with it of another false world, which had no
right to be. Muspel was fighting for its life--against all that is most
shameful and frightful--against sin masquerading as eternal beauty,
against baseness masquerading as Nature, against the Devil masquerading
as God...." David Lindsay - A Voyage to Arcturus -
 

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Animal planet is crap. Nature is becoming crap, too. They keep having weird episodes with people with severe asperger's syndrome narrating. Lol i would've enjoyed that eel episode alot more if they did have HIM narrating that episode. Ahahaha

What I dont like about animal planet, is their disgusting sensationalism..
 

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Animal planet is crap. Nature is becoming crap, too. They keep having weird episodes with people with severe asperger's syndrome narrating. Lol i would've enjoyed that eel episode alot more if they did have HIM narrating that episode. Ahahaha

What I dont like about animal planet, is their disgusting sensationalism..
We need to have a chat with the AB powers that be. A smiley is missing that posts like this desperately need:
WOOF!
 

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Halfawake ramblings.
Some people, and this includes the vast majority of the people on AB, honestly care about the health and well being of animals. The animal's existence has gone beyond being a show piece and awakens or promotes the persons higher qualities of care and concern, and in turn, interest and knowledge of the greater world around them. This is what attracted me to AB to begin with. The often overlooked little details which so many here are keenly aware of. Hundreds of little facts and info bits that snags ones brain and says, 'Hey! Check this out! Amazing world, isn't it?'.

Alongside this is animal exploitation. Bull fights. Cock fights. Check out my bad ass pit-bull and so on. A whole heck of a lot of the animosity voiced here on AB is resentment for what a person perceives as exploitation. Let's be clear about what is meant by that word. Essentially, the antithesis of care and concern. Pandering, to cater to, a persons baser instincts. Be it massive insecurity that motivates keeping and training a bitemonster, or observing or causing pain, humiliation or degradation of an animal.

The two above aspects can be very close or even overlap. It is often a persons perception of that decides which category the treatment of the animal is placed in. The lines get blurred. It happens though this is very odd. The highest quality a person can have, compassion, and the lowest, standing side by side.

And along come shows like animal planet. Animal Planet is an example, a very good one in fact, of one quality of human nature being traded for or even masquerading as the other. In this case an obvious degree of greed and avarice has insidiously invaded what started out to be an informative program promoting the understanding of our fellow animals and turned it into the purely profit making venture we see today.

Perceptions. Discerning. The degree of dignity of a being. I'll head straight into the existential to close this drivel.

"The truth forced itself on him in all its cold, brutal reality. Muspel
was no all-powerful Universe, tolerating from pure indifference the
existence side by side with it of another false world, which had no
right to be. Muspel was fighting for its life--against all that is most
shameful and frightful--against sin masquerading as eternal beauty,
against baseness masquerading as Nature, against the Devil masquerading
as God...." David Lindsay - A Voyage to Arcturus -
Fascinating.

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Since this thread is not going in any particular direction, have you noticed that environmentally conscious folks base their decisions upon physical size? Millions are spent saving whales, manatees, elephants, and rhinos. Axolotls don't get nearly as much attention. They're too small. For better or worse, invertebrates typically fly under the radar as well. Maybe that's a good thing. People leave us alone.
 

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Since this thread is not going in any particular direction, have you noticed that environmentally conscious folks base their decisions upon physical size? Millions are spent saving whales, manatees, elephants, and rhinos. Axolotls don't get nearly as much attention. They're too small. For better or worse, invertebrates typically fly under the radar as well. Maybe that's a good thing. People leave us alone.
So true for so many reasons right/wrong that I care to mention. However if you think the animal kingdom has it bad, talk to ANY botanist about plants- and I'm NOT even including trees, plants have it far worse off than animals in terms of attention AND protection.

The stats on plants make the human threat on animals look like a walk in the park!
 

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Since this thread is not going in any particular direction, have you noticed that environmentally conscious folks base their decisions upon physical size? Millions are spent saving whales, manatees, elephants, and rhinos. Axolotls don't get nearly as much attention. They're too small. For better or worse, invertebrates typically fly under the radar as well. Maybe that's a good thing. People leave us alone.
Yup. It's all flash and crash media news maker stuff. Getting people to understand the web of life is boring. It really hit home for me when our class was on a field trip and the prof scooped up a handful of loam from the forest floor and said, 'Without the animals and microorganisms as in this, life on this planet wouldn't exist'. There should be an international holiday celebrating the detrivores.
 

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It's so true Snark- but most people don't have the interest OR intellectual capacity to understand all the cycles (and I'm not even considering the oceanic cycles in said statement), and how they are connected. Remember as long as its freezing in some part of the world there's no global climate change.
 

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I used to LOVE watching Animal Planet, especially shows like "The Most Extreme" because it highlighted neat facts about animals and made it interesting. I can forgive shows like "Too Cute," I just can't stand all the reality shows now.

Please correct me if I'm wrong because they play this channel at work (I work at a pet lodge) and I'll see bits and pieces, but what does Treehouse Masters and Wild West Alaska have to do with animals?
honestly, I have no clue. Channels are changing their shows to fit what's in demand. Even if its just stupid shows involving hillbillies and their trash. It's a shame. I remember when they used to play David Attenborough documentaries, and Ruth the bug man, and all the cool documentaries.
I'm totally staying out of the crapfest that this thread turned in to. You should too. Don't wanna get reported or something.

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So true for so many reasons right/wrong that I care to mention. However if you think the animal kingdom has it bad, talk to ANY botanist about plants- and I'm NOT even including trees, plants have it far worse off than animals in terms of attention AND protection.

The stats on plants make the human threat on animals look like a walk in the park!
that fact always makes me sad. The rafflesia and other "cool" ones get all the attention and saving, but the less noticeable or important ones just fade away.
 

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I miss the 90's episodes of Nature. they focused on invertebrates much more back then.. I dont get why the old nature episodes are never released, they need to put those on netflix..
 

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I'm as anti- religion as one can get, but can we get the thread back on topic? I used to love River Monsters. But reality television is the dumbest crap of all time. When Honey Boo Boo and her whale pod of idiots have a TV show, you know there is something wrong.
 

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I don't even watch network television any more, I stopped at around 2003. I watch the news, HBO series and Showtime series, that's it.
 

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I don't even watch network television any more, I stopped at around 2003. I watch the news, HBO series and Showtime series, that's it.
About the 500th time I involuntarily saw G Bush Senior barfing my way from the moron box, circa 1980's, I cut the cable (literally) and haven't watched commercial (they say it's quality programming... but who wants to be programmed?) since.
 

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About the 500th time I involuntarily saw G Bush Senior barfing my way from the moron box, circa 1980's, I cut the cable (literally) and haven't watched commercial (they say it's quality programming... but who wants to be programmed?) since.
I stop watching the news at times, because quite often it's just noise. Every so often there's a good piece of investigative journalism, but that's as rare as a Fiji Iguana. And in the USA, if you publish something that goes against the gov't, well then you are just terror suspect then, more and more we are becoming China and Russia in that arena.
 

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I stop watching the news at times, because quite often it's just noise. Every so often there's a good piece of investigative journalism, but that's as rare as a Fiji Iguana. And in the USA, if you publish something that goes against the gov't, well then you are just terror suspect then, more and more we are becoming China and Russia in that arena.
The obvious problem with watching the news if the lack of contrapuntal information. Sometimes news is news, but when the source is questionable as, say, Fox, it's a serious mistake to accept anything as truth until you have encountered at least one other source. That is the problem with much of the US today. The majority of the population only gets single source news.
 

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There's nothing with Fix Noise Network if one likes lies and gross misrepresentation of truth :D
 

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And,as usual,$$ triumphs over really worthy shows.This is why I like the documentaries on BBC.They are so amazing,and so well done.Kinda makes you wonder if we should still be a colony,if for no other reason than to see what REAL culture looks like.(and yes,I am a Kentucky hillbilly.)

BTW Snark,on the baby oil thing,I'm leaning toward pressure cookers.....

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+1000 to Snark
One nation under god... In god we trust.... What part of indoctrination is so hard to comprehend? I'll decide what master I'm meekly subservient to, thank you very much.

Subservient: very willing or too willing to obey someone else, to accept or obey without question.
 
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