Androctonus liouvillei

[Ythier]

Hi,
A male A.liouvillei, with male A.mauritanicus for comparison (both from Morocco).
Cheers
Eric

 

[drapion]

Very nice pic Eric!!!How did you get him?

 

[Aviculariinae]

Hi,

I cant really see any difference....what am i missing?

Cheers
Bren

 

[kahoy]

Hi,

I cant really see any difference....what am i missing?

Cheers
Bren

larger telson, smaller (very small difference) 2nd and 3rd metasoma. and the brownish sheen.

was i right?

 

[Gigas]

and first metasoma's granulation path goes straight across the metasoma in liouvelli but not in mauritanicus

 

[kahoy]

2nd metasoma on A.liouvillei, has lesser granulation on the middle than on that of A.mauritanicus

 

[Aviculariinae]

and first metasoma's granulation path goes straight across the metasoma in liouvelli but not in mauritanicus

Hi,
I seen that myself but wasn,t sure whether that warranted different species status.

Cheers
Bren

 

[Ythier]

Yeah it isn't very visible on those photos but the color is the more obvious difference, brown for liouvillei, grey-dark for mauritanicus. Of course there are many other criteria (thiner hands, longer fingers, granulation, ect), wich are all described in the Vachon 1955 and Lourenço's revision of Androctonus.
Cheers,
Eric

 

[Aviculariinae]

Yeah it isn't very visible on those photos but the color is the more obvious difference, brown for liouvillei, grey-dark for mauritanicus. Of course there are many other criteria, wich are all described in the Vachon 1955.
Cheers,
Eric

Hi,

I didnt think colour would also be used as a way to distingush between the two.


Bren

 

[Gigas]

Hi,

I didnt think colour would also be used as a way to distingush between the two.


Bren

It isn't really, but it can be used as an indicator, eg the black lip on H. spadix not the reason it is a different spec to H. arizonensis but its a helpful feature

 

[telow]

very nice eric, glad you posted pics of this,
hopefully in the future i will be able to get some of these





wayne.....

 

[Gigas]

Hi,
I seen that myself but wasn,t sure whether that warranted different species status.

Cheers
Bren

To be honest i was just pointing out differences that i saw not sure wether this is a defining feature.
Maybe someone ha an Androctonus ID paper they'd like to share?

 

[pandinus]

Yeah it isn't very visible on those photos but the color is the more obvious difference, brown for liouvillei, grey-dark for mauritanicus. Of course there are many other criteria (thiner hands, longer fingers, granulation, ect), wich are all described in the Vachon 1955 and Lourenço's revision of Androctonus.
Cheers,
Eric

i was about to point out that liouvillei had some of the longest(comparitavely) chela i've seen on an adroctonus.

 

[Gigas]

which are all described in the Vachon 1955 and Lourenço's revision of Androctonus.
Cheers,
Eric

Is this Text available as an online resource at all?

 

[Brian S]

Hi Eric,
Do you have a female for the male? I would like to see this species bred in captivity

 

[Galapoheros]

Wow, great pics! I'm glad I didn't overlook your thread. Very nice looking scorpions. I've been eyeballing A.mauritanicus for a few months now. Great comparison pics.

 

[Ythier]

Is this Text available as an online resource at all?

Only the Vachon is available online : http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/vachon.php (in French), here is the reference for the Lourenço's revision : Lourenço W. R., Nouvelles considérations taxonomiques sur les espèces du genre Androctonus Ehrenberg, 1828 et description de deux nouvelles espèces (Scorpiones, Buthidae), 03/2005. Revue Suisse de Zoologies 112 (1): 145-171

 

[Ythier]

Hi Eric,
Do you have a female for the male? I would like to see this species bred in captivity

Unfortunately not yet...

 

[dGr8-1]

Hi Eric,

Best of health to your scorps. Great pictures! As always.

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