All you need to know about mites

[50centipede]

One of my centipede enclosures had crappy ventilation and I saw a lot of mites on the centipede. Instead of rehousing to a new substrate I moved the whole contents from the old enclosure to a bigger, well ventilated enclosure. The mites stopped bothering the centipede and eventually their numbers diminished greatly. What I learned from this is mites are not dangerous. They are attracted to a weak/dying creature but not the cause of your pet's unhealthy condition.

 

[Aline]

I recently came across this : https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0039019

and this : https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1557506309001153

 

[USNGunner]

Good informaton. A noop getting ready to read the "Tarantula Keeper" thanks you for this!

 

[Aline]

Would the same apply to other spiders, such as true spiders? I have seen people from jumping spiders (Salticidae) communities report cases of parasitic mites on their spiders and I'd love to have more information!

 

[Pangalin]

Mites are one of the big topics that turn up over and over again. I can't count how often I've posted about them and tried to put a rational view on some rather phobic reactions. So, here is a consolidated post with everything about mites that I (and others) can link back to:

Mites are harmless – that needs to be said first.

The mites showing up again and again in tarantula enclosures or, more often, in feeder colonies, are grain mites and related groups (genus Acarus) - scavenger mites that live off rotting organic matter. They feed off anything they can find, including spider poop, boli, and, if things get bad, even rotting coco fibers. As such they are actually beneficial – they help clean up the enclosures, the same way springtails do, but for some unexplained reasons springtails are loved whereas mites are considered the bad guys, very undeserved. Mites in small number are actually beneficial – no need to get rid of them.

But what about those mites that attach themselves to your tarantula, often sitting at the base of the chelicerae? Those are parasites, right? – Wrong.

When mites come upon bad times – little food, drought, overpopulation – they’ll want to emigrate. Unfortunately mites aren’t built for walking (longer distances) so they go looking for a convenient ‘bus’, something that can carry them far away. In that case your tarantula comes in handy. The mites, now called phoretic (‘hitchhiker’) mites, climb on board and find a place with softer skin to attach themselves with their mouth parts. Prime real estate is the area around the chelicerae because that area actually has food service: every time the tarantula eats the mites get to clean up afterwards, or even during feeding, and get dinner, too. They are kind of… ewww… but still harmless. They just sit there, they don’t suck hemolymph or anything else from the tarantula.

Still those phoretic mites are really kind of… ewww. Want to get rid of them? Don’t try to brush or rip them off. That can actually damage the exoskeleton of your tarantula since the mites have attached themselves securely. Instead do something counter-intuitive. Place a small peace or rotting organic matter (fruit, veggy, or a dead cricket, whatever, the mites are not picky) in with your tarantula. The mites will smell the food and leave their ‘bus’ to have dinner. Take the rotting whatever out after a few hours, preferably using a spoon, so that all mites feeding on their feast will be collected, too. Rinse and repeat.

The one problem about mites is that in favorable circumstances (moisture and plenty of food) they can explode in numbers. Within days they are everywhere, a moving avalanche of annoying little freeloaders looking for a good life. This situation actually happens very rarely in a tarantula enclosure since even a moist one usually does not contain enough food for a mite explosion but it does happen more often in feeder colonies. If it does happen in a tarantula enclosure it annoys not only you but even more the poor spider that cannot escape those millions of nuisances. The spider will stand on tiptoes, move a lot and scratch itself. Now what?

Step one: wipe everything wipe-able off, but use only water. Chemicals are a bigger danger for your tarantula than for the mites. Wait a few hours for the next wave of mites to arrive, rinse and repeat.

Step two: dry your tarantulas enclosure out and make sure to remove boli and anything rotting in there. If you have a mite explosion something has gone wrong in the first place. A well kept tarantula enclosure can and will support a mite population but its proliferation will be limited.

Step three: get springtails. They will compete with mites for resources and keep them in check.

So you want to prevent mites because you just don’t want phoretic mites on your T or a mite explosion in your enclosures? Bad news: you can’t. Mites are lightweight, small, and everywhere. They come in through the air. They will always come in through the air. Good news: they are harmless. I think I said that already. But what about sterilizing the substrate one way or other? That will kill any mites, right? Yes, it will, and it will kill anything else living in the substrate, too. The first thing to arrive on this wonderful, pristine substrate will have it all to itself – paradise. What do you want to bet that the first thing to arrive will be a mite? And if it isn’t a mite it’s a fungal spore. What do you like better?

But what about those real tarantula parasitic mites? Those do exist (from the mite family Laelapidae), but they are rare and scientific literature about them is even rarer. They do need to come from somewhere, though. Real parasites are specific, tarantula mites don’t come in on a cricket or any other feeder, they only come in on another tarantula and a wild caught one at that. As of yet, nobody has managed to breed those rare and exotic mites in captivity. Is your tarantula wild caught? If not it doesn’t have a parasitic mite. And if it is wild caught? Parasitic mites don’t sit around the chelicerae usually but attach themselves at the edge of the carapace. If you really manage to find one – admire it and marvel. It’s much rarer than your tarantula. And unless the spider has a whole bunch of them it’s not going to do much harm either, they don’t suck that much hemolymph. I have no clue how to get them off since no one I know, have ever talked to, or ever read about has ever been in the situation. Personally, I’d document everything about the mite(s) and write a scientific paper about it , like these people did.

For a mite researcher's take on this topic read this.

Great read for novice like me hadn't even considered about mites yet very usefull great work

 

[Exoskeleton Invertebrates]

When it’s time to sell your tarantulas make sure you include “hitchhiker mites with purchase of tarantula”. I’m sure your customer would love their new edition adding to their stock. Silly to read on a thread that mites are harmless. Same story different poster. So if you think mites can’t get inside the epigastric furrow of a female think again. I’ve lost an egg sac that was filled with beautiful mites. And in the past I have lost a few tarantulas that were kept humid filled with mites in the enclosure. Yeah keep dreaming that they’re not harmful lol.

 

[Spiderspiders]

Mites are one of the big topics that turn up over and over again. I can't count how often I've posted about them and tried to put a rational view on some rather phobic reactions. So, here is a consolidated post with everything about mites that I (and others) can link back to:

Mites are harmless – that needs to be said first.

The mites showing up again and again in tarantula enclosures or, more often, in feeder colonies, are grain mites and related groups (genus Acarus) - scavenger mites that live off rotting organic matter. They feed off anything they can find, including spider poop, boli, and, if things get bad, even rotting coco fibers. As such they are actually beneficial – they help clean up the enclosures, the same way springtails do, but for some unexplained reasons springtails are loved whereas mites are considered the bad guys, very undeserved. Mites in small number are actually beneficial – no need to get rid of them.

But what about those mites that attach themselves to your tarantula, often sitting at the base of the chelicerae? Those are parasites, right? – Wrong.

When mites come upon bad times – little food, drought, overpopulation – they’ll want to emigrate. Unfortunately mites aren’t built for walking (longer distances) so they go looking for a convenient ‘bus’, something that can carry them far away. In that case your tarantula comes in handy. The mites, now called phoretic (‘hitchhiker’) mites, climb on board and find a place with softer skin to attach themselves with their mouth parts. Prime real estate is the area around the chelicerae because that area actually has food service: every time the tarantula eats the mites get to clean up afterwards, or even during feeding, and get dinner, too. They are kind of… ewww… but still harmless. They just sit there, they don’t suck hemolymph or anything else from the tarantula.

Still those phoretic mites are really kind of… ewww. Want to get rid of them? Don’t try to brush or rip them off. That can actually damage the exoskeleton of your tarantula since the mites have attached themselves securely. Instead do something counter-intuitive. Place a small peace or rotting organic matter (fruit, veggy, or a dead cricket, whatever, the mites are not picky) in with your tarantula. The mites will smell the food and leave their ‘bus’ to have dinner. Take the rotting whatever out after a few hours, preferably using a spoon, so that all mites feeding on their feast will be collected, too. Rinse and repeat.

The one problem about mites is that in favorable circumstances (moisture and plenty of food) they can explode in numbers. Within days they are everywhere, a moving avalanche of annoying little freeloaders looking for a good life. This situation actually happens very rarely in a tarantula enclosure since even a moist one usually does not contain enough food for a mite explosion but it does happen more often in feeder colonies. If it does happen in a tarantula enclosure it annoys not only you but even more the poor spider that cannot escape those millions of nuisances. The spider will stand on tiptoes, move a lot and scratch itself. Now what?

Step one: wipe everything wipe-able off, but use only water. Chemicals are a bigger danger for your tarantula than for the mites. Wait a few hours for the next wave of mites to arrive, rinse and repeat.

Step two: dry your tarantulas enclosure out and make sure to remove boli and anything rotting in there. If you have a mite explosion something has gone wrong in the first place. A well kept tarantula enclosure can and will support a mite population but its proliferation will be limited.

Step three: get springtails. They will compete with mites for resources and keep them in check.

So you want to prevent mites because you just don’t want phoretic mites on your T or a mite explosion in your enclosures? Bad news: you can’t. Mites are lightweight, small, and everywhere. They come in through the air. They will always come in through the air. Good news: they are harmless. I think I said that already. But what about sterilizing the substrate one way or other? That will kill any mites, right? Yes, it will, and it will kill anything else living in the substrate, too. The first thing to arrive on this wonderful, pristine substrate will have it all to itself – paradise. What do you want to bet that the first thing to arrive will be a mite? And if it isn’t a mite it’s a fungal spore. What do you like better?

But what about those real tarantula parasitic mites? Those do exist (from the mite family Laelapidae), but they are rare and scientific literature about them is even rarer. They do need to come from somewhere, though. Real parasites are specific, tarantula mites don’t come in on a cricket or any other feeder, they only come in on another tarantula and a wild caught one at that. As of yet, nobody has managed to breed those rare and exotic mites in captivity. Is your tarantula wild caught? If not it doesn’t have a parasitic mite. And if it is wild caught? Parasitic mites don’t sit around the chelicerae usually but attach themselves at the edge of the carapace. If you really manage to find one – admire it and marvel. It’s much rarer than your tarantula. And unless the spider has a whole bunch of them it’s not going to do much harm either, they don’t suck that much hemolymph. I have no clue how to get them off since no one I know, have ever talked to, or ever read about has ever been in the situation. Personally, I’d document everything about the mite(s) and write a scientific paper about it , like these people did.

For a mite researcher's take on this topic read this.

I’m late to the party but this is awesome. THANK YOU for taking the time to make this.

 

[Chuck3]

Glad I found this here. just to share a recent story with new keepers or those who’ve never experienced this first hand. Also, please, don’t let this make you fearful of buying these types of feeders, maybe more so be mindful where they came from. I’ve bought more of these than I can count and this has never happened before.

I purchased a 100 count of super worms, I brought it home, sat the container down for later use, this was on October, 6th. I decided I’m going to use a few of them October 11th or 12th, go to get the container and when I see it I noticed something is definitely not normal, the dang thing was COVERED in grain mites. Small white fuzzy slow moving little mites by the 100s upon 100s. I’m already familiar with grain mites, I’ve never seen this many, but have dealt with them once before and didn’t panic, I know scavenger mites are not a big deal in small numbers, even beneficial in ways as said many times here but this wasn’t a small number, to say the least, the super worms, the container and they’re hitch hiking colony of mites we’re tossed outside.

I’m sure by the time I noticed this not all of them went outside but with my well established clean up crews and enclosure keeping, I’m not worried, god knows any of my 50+ enclosures there probably is or was already some at some point in small numbers.

To those new to the hobby, this is an incredibly important thread, it’s a question that most people wish they had a dollar for each time they’ve seen it asked and my best advice is at first, don’t panic, second, education. Learn about them, it may help put your mind to ease while you’re figuring out what steps are best to take for you.

 

[SherwoodOutlaw]

Spotted what I think are mites in my L. Parahybanas enclosure today and now feel a lot better thanks

 

[Peyton Bemis]

Boina could you please see the post i posted today and see the Mites on my tarantula and determine whether you think they are the parasitic kind. Whatever it is it seems to be around the edges of the carapace i would appreciate it so much. Actually here are the pictures.

 

[ooya]

Hello! nice to meet you.
I am a tarantula breeder in Japan.
It was very helpful for me to learn detailed stories and knowledge about mites from you.
In Japan, this hobby is still only a small part of the market, and there aren't that many types of CBs in circulation, and WDs are also available.
This is C. hainanus from WD.
I can see mites on the side of the carapace, are they blood-sucking? I don't think so, but what do you think?

 

[drurymercy]

Mites are one of the big topics that turn up over and over again. I can't count how often I've posted about them and tried to put a rational view on some rather phobic reactions. So, here is a consolidated post with everything about mites that I (and others) can link back to:

Mites are harmless – that needs to be said first.

The mites showing up again and again in tarantula enclosures or, more often, in feeder colonies, are grain mites and related groups (genus Acarus) - scavenger mites that live off rotting organic matter. They feed off anything they can find, including spider poop, boli, and, if things get bad, even rotting coco fibers. As such they are actually beneficial – they help clean up the enclosures, the same way springtails do, but for some unexplained reasons springtails are loved whereas mites are considered the bad guys, very undeserved. Mites in small number are actually beneficial – no need to get rid of them.

But what about those mites that attach themselves to your tarantula, often sitting at the base of the chelicerae? Those are parasites, right? – Wrong.

When mites come upon bad times – little food, drought, overpopulation – they’ll want to emigrate. Unfortunately mites aren’t built for walking (longer distances) so they go looking for a convenient ‘bus’, something that can carry them far away. In that case your tarantula comes in handy. The mites, now called phoretic (‘hitchhiker’) mites, climb on board and find a place with softer skin to attach themselves with their mouth parts. Prime real estate is the area around the chelicerae because that area actually has food service: every time the tarantula eats the mites get to clean up afterwards, or even during feeding, and get dinner, too. They are kind of… ewww… but still harmless. They just sit there, they don’t suck hemolymph or anything else from the tarantula.

Still those phoretic mites are really kind of… ewww. Want to get rid of them? Don’t try to brush or rip them off. That can actually damage the exoskeleton of your tarantula since the mites have attached themselves securely. Instead do something counter-intuitive. Place a small peace or rotting organic matter (fruit, veggy, or a dead cricket, whatever, the mites are not picky) in with your tarantula. The mites will smell the food and leave their ‘bus’ to have dinner. Take the rotting whatever out after a few hours, preferably using a spoon, so that all mites feeding on their feast will be collected, too. Rinse and repeat.

The one problem about mites is that in favorable circumstances (moisture and plenty of food) they can explode in numbers. Within days they are everywhere, a moving avalanche of annoying little freeloaders looking for a good life. This situation actually happens very rarely in a tarantula enclosure since even a moist one usually does not contain enough food for a mite explosion but it does happen more often in feeder colonies. If it does happen in a tarantula enclosure it annoys not only you but even more the poor spider that cannot escape those millions of nuisances. The spider will stand on tiptoes, move a lot and scratch itself. Now what?

Step one: wipe everything wipe-able off, but use only water. Chemicals are a bigger danger for your tarantula than for the mites. Wait a few hours for the next wave of mites to arrive, rinse and repeat.

Step two: dry your tarantulas enclosure out and make sure to remove boli and anything rotting in there. If you have a mite explosion something has gone wrong in the first place. A well kept tarantula enclosure can and will support a mite population but its proliferation will be limited.

Step three: get springtails. They will compete with mites for resources and keep them in check.

So you want to prevent mites because you just don’t want phoretic mites on your T or a mite explosion in your enclosures? Bad news: you can’t. Mites are lightweight, small, and everywhere. They come in through the air. They will always come in through the air. Good news: they are harmless. I think I said that already. But what about sterilizing the substrate one way or other? That will kill any mites, right? Yes, it will, and it will kill anything else living in the substrate, too. The first thing to arrive on this wonderful, pristine substrate will have it all to itself – paradise. What do you want to bet that the first thing to arrive will be a mite? And if it isn’t a mite it’s a fungal spore. What do you like better?

But what about those real tarantula parasitic mites? Those do exist (from the mite family Laelapidae), but they are rare and scientific literature about them is even rarer. They do need to come from somewhere, though. Real parasites are specific, tarantula mites don’t come in on a cricket or any other feeder, they only come in on another tarantula and a wild caught one at that. As of yet, nobody has managed to breed those rare and exotic mites in captivity. Is your tarantula wild caught? If not it doesn’t have a parasitic mite. And if it is wild caught? Parasitic mites don’t sit around the chelicerae usually but attach themselves at the edge of the carapace. If you really manage to find one – admire it and marvel. It’s much rarer than your tarantula. And unless the spider has a whole bunch of them it’s not going to do much harm either, they don’t suck that much hemolymph. I have no clue how to get them off since no one I know, have ever talked to, or ever read about has ever been in the situation. Personally, I’d document everything about the mite(s) and write a scientific paper about it , like these people did.

For a mite researcher's take on this topic read this.

Hi @boina lol so I picture u as the expert on this I’m the one who’s water pipe busted in their room. And apparently it’s still wet (insurance adjuster finally showed up) I never had mites before well now I do I thought they were my springtails but going to feed my juices I noticed it was mites…in every single one! I did a slice of cucumber I wasn’t too worried but then I read this I found on tarantulaforums.com

MIGHTY MITES

And now I’m a tad worried most are in my P machala tank since he loves his moisture and he has his springtails who b is why I thought they were just reproducing in there. Is this link accurate? I’m going to do a full clean out on all of my T’s when I get home, but should I do anything else in my room or are these ones not too bad? I was going to place another order but now I’m hesitant if these mites will be a problem! Thank u for any insight u can give me! This is just 3 enclousure a water but it’s in all 25 and I only have 1 that has no mites so far. In my Pampho enclosure they are also in the one corners soil that I keep damp for him

 

[tarantulastuff]

There are some parasitic mites that are specific to centipedes. I've only found them on Indonesian Ethmostigmus.
Also, I have a WC Phlogellius that seems to be parasitic mite infested.

 

[drurymercy]

There are some parasitic mites that are specific to centipedes. I've only found them on Indonesian Ethmostigmus.
Also, I have a WC Phlogellius that seems to be parasitic mite infested.

Dave’s little beasties had that on one of his WC centipedes I don’t remember what species. But he used those mites that eats parasitic mites to remedy it. Here’s the link!! lol I just don’t know how it would work with tarantulas but I would try it if I had to!! Centipedes are beautiful! I hope u can get rid of the mites somehow u will have to keep us updated if anything works!!

 

[tarantulastuff]

Ah, not those. Those seem to be phoretic-but phoretic and attaching in a way that irritates the "skin" of the centipede. Much like barnacles.

The pictures attached below are "true parasitic mites" feeding on Ethmostigmus rubripes rubripes from Alor, NTT, Indonesia. Parasitic mites are very specialized, though, only attaching to one species. When introduced to other members of the same species, they proliferated. When introduced to a Scolopendra subspinipes piceoflava, they did not reproduce and died.

Parasitic mites also exist for millipedes. Working on macro photos.

 

[drurymercy]

Ah, not those. Those seem to be phoretic-but phoretic and attaching in a way that irritates the "skin" of the centipede. Much like barnacles.

The pictures attached below are "true parasitic mites" feeding on Ethmostigmus rubripes rubripes from Alor, NTT, Indonesia. Parasitic mites are very specialized, though, only attaching to one species. When introduced to other members of the same species, they proliferated. When introduced to a Scolopendra subspinipes piceoflava, they did not reproduce and died.

Parasitic mites also exist for millipedes. Working on macro photos.

Thank u I didn’t know!! And that’s so cool u got a pic of just the mite!! I hate to say it but I actually think they r kinda cute

 

[tarantulastuff]

Remedying the mite problem is easy enough; just submerge the centipede in water for +-10s and change out all the substrate and decor.

 

[drurymercy]

Remedying the mite problem is easy enough; just submerge the centipede in water for +-10s and change out all the substrate and decor.

I was going to ask the solution I don’t centipedes only spiders but my daughter REALLY wants a centipede I have a feeling before I know it she will talk me into it! They really are so beautiful but I fear an escape