Aggressive-docile

[cold blood]

The Internet is full of care sheets

And theyre all a pile of crap that should be categorically ignored. People dont learn from care sheets, they get confused or misled by them.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

And theyre all a pile of crap that should be categorically ignored. People dont learn from care sheets, they get confused or misled by them.

Yes, that's what I wanted to say on my post

 

[jonikniemi]

Thats why I made this thread...

Do you guys think that beginners come straightly here. No. First they read all the caresheets out there.
They do learn from caresheet. Is it right or wrong ,how do they know. They propably try to make same kind of middleway with that info. Thats what I did.

 

[Vanisher]

I hope they do! As said, many caresheers are trash! They only make noobs more confused with their "humidety requirements" and other things that are not required! It should be easy and fun to keep tarantulas. Not confusing and hard!

 

[Andrea82]

@jonikniemi
If a spider reacts to you invading its space (enclosure, burrow, webtube) by slapping at you and wanting to chase you out, they are defending their home.
A spider will never come out of its burrow to go find a human to harass. Therefore, spiders are never agressive. They can be defensive. You, as a human, interacting with them, invading their space, are the agressor, not the spider.

About the books and care sheets. Care sheets are crap. And beginners will find Arachnoboards fast enough since it is one of the first sites to come up in a google search. Only exceptions are the people buying them in a pet shop, but even they end up here sooner or later.
Books are nice, but this hobby is rapidly progressing, so some things are going to be out of date very fast.

Another vote here for P.irminia not being docile/tolerant at all. Mine chased me around their enclosures, slapping and threatposing all the way. And they were slings.

P.pulcher, not docile/tolerant at all. Speedy psycho spiders, one day very defensive, other day zipping around their enclosures at the slightest touch or movement.

My L.parahybana was very cranky and I have seen a lot of threatposes from him.

 

[Vanisher]

Actually i had a P cancerides that striked at me when i walked by its enclosure, and i have heard otjer that came running out and striked at the glass!
I have had a A seemanni chasing me at her hind legs aswell. But i guess those can be called proactive defenssive!

 

[jonikniemi]

Im glad there are couple that understood my keypoint in this thread. Thanks guys.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Actually i had a P cancerides that striked at me when i walked by its enclosure, and i have heard otjer that came running out and striked at the glass!

Well, kinda normal: P.cancerides are among the most nervous and defensive NW's ever

 

[Vanisher]

Well, kinda normal: P.cancerides are among the most nervous and defensive NW's ever

Yes i know! I was just meaning they where more "agressive" than defenssive!

 

[cold blood]

No. First they read all the caresheets out there.

Which is precisely why we have to correct literally everything they learn from those care sheets. There's absolutely no doubt this hobby would be better off and every new keeper would be better off if care sheets did not exist all over the internet.

 

[jonikniemi]

Which is precisely why we have to correct literally everything they learn from those care sheets. There's absolutely no doubt this hobby would be better off and every new keeper would be better off if care sheets did not exist all over the internet.

Hence why I made this topic. Tho I was late and these kind of threads have been madr many times before. So sorry about that.

 

[Vanisher]

It very much feels like caresheets are from the ninethies, and they still hangs on out there. The majority are very outdated. I think i have read maybe one that are mostly correct. So i hope newkeeper comes here first, but many ask a shopkeepers advise when they buy the tarantula or google "speicies specific" caresheets.

 

[Andrea82]

Actually i had a P cancerides that striked at me when i walked by its enclosure, and i have heard otjer that came running out and striked at the glass!
I have had a A seemanni chasing me at her hind legs aswell. But i guess those can be called proactive defenssive!

Nope, still defensive. Protecting their territory. They just consider a larger part of the shelf or your spider room their territory

 

[jonikniemi]

To-may-to, to-mah-to.
One is more tolerant than other. Lets continue.

 

[The Grym Reaper]

Brachypelma hamorii ×2: other one was docile but the other one was one of the most aggressive spidey I have ever owned.

Mine was docile and then turned into one of my most defensive tarantulas after a moult

Nhandu chromatus: Skittish

Skittish and defensive. This goes for the entire genus.

Psalmopoeus pulcher: Super docile

Had a male (sold him when he hooked out) and currently have a female, both skittish and defensive.

Psalmopoeus irminia: One threathposture premolt otherwise pretty docile.

Mine throws up threat postures when backed into a corner but she's pretty calm otherwise, I also catch her out in the open on a daily basis.

This species has a reputation as being extremely defensive & reclusive though.

As for L.parahybana viewed as a defensive species, I have to tell you that I've never heard such a thing

I had 2 big females, one was extremely skittish and prone to bolting/hair kicking, the other would throw up threat postures at anything that wasn't food.

 

[SonsofArachne]

Psalmopoeus irminia is (in general) one of the most defensive T's out there (yes, more than certain OW's species) and by a long shot the most defensive species of the genus

P. irminia has a definite rival in their genus. I just got some Psalmopoeus victori slings - touch one leg lightly with a paint brush and watch them go from a normal pose to a threat pose to a strike in a split second. One even grabbed the bristles with its front legs and held on for a second.

 

[SonsofArachne]

P.pulcher, not docile/tolerant at all.

While I certainly believe you, my four P. pulchers never threat pose and will simply go into their hides when I open their enclosures. I will be rehousing them after their next molts so I guess I'll find out just how far their tolerance extends

 

[Andrea82]

While I certainly believe you, my four P. pulchers never threat pose and will simply go into their hides when I open their enclosures. I will be rehousing them after their next molts so I guess I'll find out just how far their tolerance extends

Mine were a bit like jekyll and hyde. One moult skittish, next moult defensive. Never calm though. I think I have some posts lying around Ab on them

 

[The Grym Reaper]

P. irminia has a definite rival in their genus. I just got some Psalmopoeus victori slings - touch one leg lightly with a paint brush and watch them go from a normal pose to a threat pose to a strike in a split second. One even grabbed the bristles with its front legs and held on for a second.

Yeah, mine's a grumpy sod, probably my most defensive Psalmo (followed by my ecclesiasticus)

 

[Chris LXXIX]

I had 2 big females, one was extremely skittish and prone to bolting/hair kicking, the other would throw up threat postures at anything that wasn't food.

You somewhat 'subscribed' to bizarre temperament specimens, that's why