Acanthoscurria geniculata post-molt problems

IntermittentSygnal

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I’m very sorry for the loss of your Princess. My genic is growing very slowly as well. He was around 1.5” when I got him 8/27/22. He is now around 3.5”.
 

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Thanks for the comfort.

I must have some sort of bad luck for this species because all my other Tarantulas had never given me any problems (and I have some of them for more than 7 years...).In the future I will try to take again an Acanthoscurria because I like this species a lot. let's hope for good...

I attach some pics (sorry for the poor quality...), I don't notice anything special but I'm not an expert.
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The thing that surprise more is than after the molt she ate at least 4 times without problems, all very strange... but i understand that this kind of things simply happen...
 

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Thanks for the comfort.

I must have some sort of bad luck for this species because all my other Tarantulas had never given me any problems (and I have some of them for more than 7 years...).In the future I will try to take again an Acanthoscurria because I like this species a lot. let's hope for good...

I attach some pics (sorry for the poor quality...), I don't notice anything special but I'm not an expert.
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The thing that surprise more is than after the molt she ate at least 4 times without problems, all very strange... but i understand that this kind of things simply happen...
Ouch same thing as caring for a Lasiodora parahybana but more moisture dependent . Sorry for your loss Take some pictures of the entire cage and see what went wrong. :pics:
It might not have been your fault. I lost mine af 7” to a wet molt.
 

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What worries me it's that the abdomen looks someway deflated.

Did she ate all the preys completely or simply munch them?


Do not dessist, they are awesome 😉
 

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“Take some pictures of the entire cage and see what went wrong”

Sorry but taken by discouragementI I have eliminated everything... in any case it was a plastic container with ventilation on two levels to favor the air recycling and abundant peat with two gradients, a dry part and another very humid. Temperature always around 28 C°
In practice, this is how I keep all my others tarantulas (only in larger containers because they are adults). I have only large terrestrial ones (Theraphosa, Lasiodora, Xenesthis, etc...)
Only the Chromatopelma (juvanile) is in a typical arboreal PVC container.

“What worries me it's that the abdomen looks someway deflated”

I noticed the same thing, it looked like a deflated bag... I don't know if it's normal once the spider is dead but it made me a little suspicious...
But with the exception of the previous A. I have never had any deaths (fortunately...).

“Did she ate all the preys completely or simply munch them?”

She always ate the entire prey. Only seemed strange to me that I never found any remains of the meal like other my tarantulas.
I don't know if this is significant...

“Do not dessist, they are awesome”

certainly ;), it's a beautiful species that I've always liked a lot..
 

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The deflated abdomen could mean a loss of internal fluids, it coule be due to dehydration, injury etc. If the spider was dead for some time it also deflates.

Regarding to the moisture, keep them moist (pinch method), with slighly drier spots.

From wich part of europe are you?
 

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Sorry for your loss. Whenever any of my spiders moult I check the obvious things such as did all legs make it out, is the skin fully cast, sex it, DLS etc but the one thing I always encourage and usually include in any moult collage for my records is the sucking stomach (looks like a seed pod on a bit of cotton)

Example below of moult collage. The sucking stomach is top right.
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Genics are one of my fave species so keep the faith and I hope you get another soon 😊
 

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This ☝🏼

It's something I always do too, and the reason of my previous question. It's a good method to discover possible issues and adjust the husbandry to prevent further issues.

Unfortunatelly, sometimes even after leaving a perfect sucking stomach in the molt, they can have issues too. Mine left a perferct stomach but wasn't able to process the food correctly, it's over a year from the molt and she is doing "good" thanks to having kept her in optimal climatic conditions.
 

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This ☝🏼

It's something I always do too, and the reason of my previous question. It's a good method to discover possible issues and adjust the husbandry to prevent further issues.

Unfortunatelly, sometimes even after leaving a perfect sucking stomach in the molt, they can have issues too. Mine left a perferct stomach but wasn't able to process the food correctly, it's over a year from the molt and she is doing "good" thanks to having kept her in optimal climatic conditions.
Great news 😊
 

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This ☝🏼

It's something I always do too, and the reason of my previous question. It's a good method to discover possible issues and adjust the husbandry to prevent further issues.

Unfortunatelly, sometimes even after leaving a perfect sucking stomach in the molt, they can have issues too. Mine left a perferct stomach but wasn't able to process the food correctly, it's over a year from the molt and she is doing "good" thanks to having kept her in optimal climatic conditions.
Can you detail how you optimized the climate for her? Different genus, but I have a young juvie who’s sucking stomach didn’t molt out (I’ve witnessed her several times attempt to eat and drink). Although I know it’s unlikely, I’m hoping for a miracle that she makes it through to the next molt.
 

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Can you detail how you optimized the climate for her? Different genus, but I have a young juvie who’s sucking stomach didn’t molt out (I’ve witnessed her several times attempt to eat and drink). Although I know it’s unlikely, I’m hoping for a miracle that she makes it through to the next molt.
Which genus?

You can basically slow down any further dehydration keeping the enclosure humid enough. I'm keeping her between 60-90 and good amounts of ventilation to increase oxygen exchange.

If your T likes dry soils you can add a piece of wet xaxim, wich would counteract any excessive drynes while the soil remains fairly dry. Wet soils protect from dehydration caused by dry air, but when the T likes dry soils you need to find ways to raise air's humidity levels, since the air is the one that draws moisture from the enclosure.
 

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Which genus?

You can basically slow down any further dehydration keeping the enclosure humid enough. I'm keeping her between 60-90 and good amounts of ventilation to increase oxygen exchange.

If your T likes dry soils you can add a piece of wet xaxim, wich would counteract any excessive drynes while the soil remains fairly dry. Wet soils protect from dehydration caused by dry air, but when the T likes dry soils you need to find ways to raise air's humidity levels, since the air is the one that draws moisture from the enclosure.
Ybrapora. My ambient humidity hasn’t been under 65% since she molted (more often averaging 75%) and I added a bit of water to her substrate as well (in addition to her water dishes-one on the ground and a small one up high). I always add more ventilation to my enclosures than needed, with the view that anything that breathes deserves fresh flowing air, regardless of how much oxygen they need to survive. She’s very skinny, so I’ve got all my fingers and toes crossed, but it seems I’ve done all I can for her. Thank you for your advice.
 

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Ybrapora. My ambient humidity hasn’t been under 65% since she molted (more often averaging 75%) and I added a bit of water to her substrate as well (in addition to her water dishes-one on the ground and a small one up high). I always add more ventilation to my enclosures than needed, with the view that anything that breathes deserves fresh flowing air, regardless of how much oxygen they need to survive. She’s very skinny, so I’ve got all my fingers and toes crossed, but it seems I’ve done all I can for her. Thank you for your advice.
Sounds perfect to me 👌🏼 I'd only add some moisture in the cork if you are using one.
 
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