A question to all Xenethis and P. Sp Solaris owners

[Wesley Barnum]

how does it feel knowing you have a T that cost just as much as a used car?

Not trying to be rude, but are they really worth that much? Or it it just price for demand?

 

[Liquifin]

I'm just going to say it, but they're not really worth the hype for those two genus. My two Xenesthis immanis is just like another A. genic, but leggier with a better looking carapace. The Pamphobeteus genus is overhyped IMO, they're basically an overhype that is similar to the A. genic (feeding and growth), but with killer uricating hairs. I understand where people come from wanting these genus's and ther pricing for them, but they're really overhyped to me.

I'm not going to even lie, I really would love a P. sp. solaris, but I'll wait for those prices to drop in the future. The Xenesthis species in the hobby are slowly going down on pricing, but very slowly. Xenesthis sp. in this hobby are pricey, not because of the demand, but due to the sac sizes. All Xenesthis sp. sacs I've seen in person are small, at most I'd guess a sac would be around 50-70 at largest, if lucky. Some people say Xenesthis sp. are tricky to breed, but I've seen a successful sac with just normal care as with any typical breeding care for a gravid female goes.

 

[Predacons5]

It doesn't feel any different from owning a $15 tarantula. I love them all the same. I like them for their colors.

The reason they're priced this way is because they are either very new to the (US) hobby or they are difficult to produce large numbers of slings.

Some Pamphobeteus spp. and some Xenesthis spp. come from higher elevations (2,000 m - 2,500 m), and people have reported difficulties getting good consistent breeding from them.

Man, if you can get a hold of drivable used cars for $100 - $500 nowadays, shoot me an email, 'cause over here, that's a steal!

 

[draconisj4]

how does it feel knowing you have a T that cost just as much as a used car?

I just saw a young female X. immanis on sale for $235, and I paid $95 for a good sized sling, not that expensive. I'd like to find a good used car for those prices, lol.

 

[Wesley Barnum]

The Pamphobeteus genus is overhyped IMO, they're basically an overhype that is similar to the A. genic (feeding and growth), but with killer uricating hairs. I understand where people come from wanting these genus's and ther pricing for them, but they're really overhyped to me.

I disagree on that. Pamphobeteus is a very good genius imo. I love my big black Peru. But they do tend to be over priced at times, but I think that’s due to breeding as mentioned. But I think Pamphobeteus are a bit worth the price imo. It’s just basically a theraphosa for people who are nervous of their care.

Xenethis imo is the over rated one. The only one I’d consider getting is sp blue. I just don’t see much in them other than their leggy size, or their color. I’d much rather spend my money on a Birupes lol. And that’s saying something lol. Why did the front change?

And btw yes, I’ve seen a lot of cars in my area that go for that price lol. But a lot are ones that’d break down as soon as you leave their driveway lmao

 

[baconwrappedpikachu]

Man, if you can get a hold of drivable used cars for $100 - $500 nowadays, shoot me an email, 'cause over here, that's a steal!

Haha, I was going to say.. I see Xenesthis slings for like $120. If that's your used car budget, well, you'd be better off walking!

 

[nicodimus22]

I spent $110 each for my X. immanis slings. I'm enjoying them so far, but they're still under 3 inches, so I don't know how the experience will be with adults.

As for the price, my understanding is that they're really difficult to breed, and if successful, they produce far less offspring (like 50) than most tarantulas that will produce hundreds. So that explains it. Supply is low, demand is pretty good --> higher price.

Also, I wouldn't want to ride in a car that cost $110.

 

[basin79]

I don't own either of those tarantulas but they're worth as much as you're willing to pay.

Some think nothing to spending thousands on a 2 week holiday.

Some think nothing to urinating £100's worth of ale down the drain over the weekend in the pub.

 

[Vanessa]

Some people will pay anything to say that they have one - be it a $1,000 Pamphobeteus, a $25,000 Ball Python, a $1,500 pair of shoes, or any of the millions of other items that come with bragging rights built into the price.
In a few years, those species will go down in price and all you're left with is being able to say 'I bought one at full price in the beginning.'... which is not worth it in my books. Maybe some people were lucky enough to have cashed in themselves with an egg sac or clutch, but most people won't be in the position where the animal paid for itself in the end.

 

[NukaMedia Exotics]

I mean they're worth whatever the person is willing to pay, me personally I wouldn't pay $500 for a sling but some might. I've seen Xenesthis 2.5" females go for under 200 so that's not too ridiculous but the solaris is definitely crazy expensive usually. Might not be a bad investment still if you end up being able to pair it and sell the slings for a ton too though.

 

[Wesley Barnum]

Thank you everyone for your input. I do think that it is a good investment, and you'd get an expensive T to brag to your friends about. But it's still something that I wouldn't get. Maybe if I did have some money just blow I would, but I'd much rather get many cooler cheaper T's than grab a walking diamond on legs lol. But that's not to say people can't, i was just calling into question on the logic behind the fact that they're 200$ to 500$. And i got the answer I needed.

But now I guess I'll ask: how much would any of you be willing to pay for a T? Sling wise. The most I paid for a sling would probably be cyriopagopus doriae. At about 100$.

 

[Goopyguy56]

I like that they are overhyped. I want people to focus on the xens and pamphos so I can collect the way better Phormictopus before anyone realises there the best nw terrestrial

 

[nicodimus22]

Maybe if I did have some money just blow I would, but I'd much rather get many cooler cheaper T's than grab a walking diamond on legs lol.

What if you already had 50+ cool cheaper Ts, though?

 

[Liquifin]

how much would any of you be willing to pay for a T? Sling wise.

The most I've ever paid for a sling was my two X. immanis for a $100 each. Everything else that's sling related have been either $50 or less. I hestitate buying slings over $75, but the X. immanis was the exception, which they wasn't worth the hype for me in the end. I gotta get my two boys ready in the future once they're mature.

Prices are too inflated in the US overall for most species. Some species (new to the hobby, rare, or hard to breed) are worth the prices, but I cannot believe how evil reputable sellers are on prices. I could buy a young 2''-3'' Taisho Sanke koi for $40 and sell at $1,250 in 2-3 years. Reputable sellers are the equivalent of Pot of Greed, I understand they need to make a living, but if a business is doing very well, why raise the prices even further?

 

[The Grym Reaper]

My X. immanis cost £35, hardly used car prices.

When sp. "solaris" get cheaper (they're currently around £200 or so for a sling) I'll probably grab one as they're the only other Pampho besides antinous that I'm interested in keeping.

 

[Olan]

Worth every penny!

 

[Predacons5]

Thank you everyone for your input. I do think that it is a good investment,...

I'm probably in the minority when I say this, but from my past experiences from other hobbies, I do not really treat these as investments. I treat them as animals I want around. I think that Xenesthis spp. and Pamphobeteus spp. have their own unique appeal to me. They aren't necessarily the most exciting feeders like Phormictopus spp. are, but they have a charm I can appreciate.

...and you'd get an expensive T to brag to your friends about.

Haha! The only friends I have that are into T's are those I just recently made at a local invertebrate society that I haven't had the opportunity to spend too much time with yet. My best friends are into other stuff. I don't really have anybody to brag to. I got them mainly because I thought they looked beautiful.

But it's still something that I wouldn't get.

Pamphobeteus sp. solaris is out of budget for me. I will have to wait this one out. They are cool though.

Maybe if I did have some money just blow I would, but I'd much rather get many cooler cheaper T's than grab a walking diamond on legs lol. But that's not to say people can't, i was just calling into question on the logic behind the fact that they're 200$ to 500$. And i got the answer I needed.

Like I said earlier, a $15 T can be just as good as the $250 T, I'm more concerned about whether I like the animal enough to get one.

But now I guess I'll ask: how much would any of you be willing to pay for a T? Sling wise. The most I paid for a sling would probably be cyriopagopus doriae. At about 100$.

The most I'd spend is $200 - $250 on 1 T. Anything beyond this is too difficult to justify or afford, especially when I know the prices can drop significantly over time pretty quickly. Most of my collection is nowhere near this amount.

 

[BennyBTamachi]

I'm probably in the minority when I say this, but from my past experiences from other hobbies, I do not really treat these as investments

Indeed, I see my T more as a hobby than as a stock option, but well...
Would make me concern if we are in the minority, but anyone is entitled to have his own view in any case.

 

[Minty]

My X. immanis cost £35, hardly used car prices.

Wouldn’t even get you a tyre. I was equally confused with the comparison to car prices. Lol

 

[Urzeitmensch]

For me, Ts are a hobby and pets and this is the perspective from which I decide how much money I want to spent on then.

I payed 100 € for my Xenesthis sp. Blue sling and 160 € for my juvie female T . Blondi. I don't think I will spent as much on one T again in the forseeable future but don't regret the purchase at all.