A. Purpurae Sling Death Questions

Kibosh

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Not buy a purpurea. They are exceptionally slow growers, this keeps them in the fragile stage longer.....purpurea is easily the most difficult avic species to raise and there really isnt a close second, its the one Avic newer keepers should really avoid. JME

Any other species of avic.


Its not toxic to tarantulas....we can say this without a doubt as hundreds of thousands of tarantulas have lived their lives on coco fiber without ANY issue.

Even if it is an insecticide...ts are not actually insects. But judging on the fact that things like phorid flies, roaches and burrowed away super and mealworms dont EVER seem to be effected, I can say I am extremely doubtful of any such claim.....its literally been the hobby staple substrate for over 40 years.....trust me, we would have noticed if it were toxic.....JMO.

A great option if you want to avoid it would be topsoil.
Good points on all accounts. I will not fall into the appeal to authority logical fallacy. Though there might be something to it, I will wait to read the research myself and watch out for peer reviews before I start swapping out all my subs.

Still be interesting to read the research.
 

viper69

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Not buy a purpurea. They are exceptionally slow growers, this keeps them in the fragile stage longer.....purpurea is easily the most difficult avic species to raise and there really isnt a close second, its the one Avic newer keepers should really avoid. JME

Any other species of avic.


Its not toxic to tarantulas....we can say this without a doubt as hundreds of thousands of tarantulas have lived their lives on coco fiber without ANY issue.

Even if it is an insecticide...ts are not actually insects. But judging on the fact that things like phorid flies, roaches and burrowed away super and mealworms dont EVER seem to be effected, I can say I am extremely doubtful of any such claim.....its literally been the hobby staple substrate for over 40 years.....trust me, we would have noticed if it were toxic.....JMO.

A great option if you want to avoid it would be topsoil.
My 4 A sp Kwitara River ( 2 different sacs, 2 different parents ) much slower growing etc than my purpurea. All kept at same temp and same prey. In fact the Rivers are the slowest and most delicate Avic locality I’ve raised.

@Whispersfromcat if you paid over 100$ for purpurea- not including shipping- you were robbed!!!!!
 
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RezonantVoid

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Its not toxic to tarantulas....we can say this without a doubt as hundreds of thousands of tarantulas have lived their lives on coco fiber without ANY issue.
But, it most certainly does effect some tarantulas down here. The assumption is that the issue is hopefully limited some specifically Australian brands, which is the sole reason I myself have not actually made a thread on here about this subject yet until more concrete proof comes along. But I do find it interesting that Ive heard a number of cases with Avic slings having issues when housed upon it. It will be interesting to hear what the experts say about the subject in the future
 

mack1855

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Sorry about your Avic…..that's why I gave up on the whole Avic group.Regardless of genus/species.just not worth it,IMO.Just me,but why go through that when there are so many other T,s.
Looks to be you were doing everything that Avic keepers said to do.And still lost that animal.
 

Marlana

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But, it most certainly does effect some tarantulas down here. The assumption is that the issue is hopefully limited some specifically Australian brands, which is the sole reason I myself have not actually made a thread on here about this subject yet until more concrete proof comes along. But I do find it interesting that Ive heard a number of cases with Avic slings having issues when housed upon it. It will be interesting to hear what the experts say about the subject in the future
Coco fiber is also popular in the plant community but you have to be careful where you source it. There can be high quantities of salt if not rinsed properly. It’s often grown by the sea and can have high salt content. I’ve always wondered if this could affect inverts (most certainly can affect plants). So I’ve steered clear of it with inverts. Insecticide also wouldn’t surprise me as many crops use it and I’d assume some level would get into the coconut itself. Of course that probably also depends on how well it’s rinsed and where it’s grown.
 

KaroKoenig

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Salty/poisonous or not: Coco fiber stinks. First thing I noticed. I'm not using it for that reason alone. The smell in a closed tank - even a very well-ventilated one - is disgusting for me.
 
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