A. geniculata vs C. cyaneopubescens for a first pet tarantula

Which would make for a better first pet tarantula?


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Storm76

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GBB rock the house!

what do you genic fanboys know!:stop::bored:
*deathstare* ...it's christmas and you're really going to push my buttons like that, bud?

Jokes aside - either works. It all depends on the keeper. Personally I'd go with the geniculata as that species simply more appealing. If I wanted a heavy webber nowadays, I'd go hands down with C. fimbriatus, but that one is an old-world for those not aware.
 

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My T vagans is a mad lad. Also literally the worst rehousing ive ever experienced with all her damn striking.. Ive had her get her fangs through plastic catch cups
Yeah I have heard B. vagans are one of the worse Brachypelma genus T's out there temperament wise.
 

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Over my way is b.boehmei that's got the rep for being the worst kicker everyone loves them though for the mood swings. Mine so far has never kicked hairs but it's very fast and skittish .
I only have a fast skittish sling t.vagans so can't comment on that but i do have a laid back t.sabolusum that's been growing fast and is no trouble at all but i have read in a few places they are like a chilled out vagans .
 

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Over my way is b.boehmei that's got the rep for being the worst kicker everyone loves them though for the mood swings. Mine so far has never kicked hairs but it's very fast and skittish .
I only have a fast skittish sling t.vagans so can't comment on that but i do have a laid back t.sabolusum that's been growing fast and is no trouble at all but i have read in a few places they are like a chilled out vagans .
I definitely find the B. boehmei to be one of the prettiest of the Brachypelma genus.
 

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I definitely find the B. boehmei to be one of the prettiest of the Brachypelma genus.
B. bohemi is up there in the Brachypelma genus to be sure! Although... no brachy tops B. emilia for looks IMHO. Really need to see one in person to understand how good they look!
 
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B. bohemi is up there in the Brachypelma genus to be sure! Although... no brachy tops B. emilia for looks IMHO. Really need to see one in person to understand how good they look!
I owned both as AFs, it's a tie for me on looks alone, but disposition emilia wins. However I knew someone that had 3 boehmei females and all were docile as H chilensis! I should have bought one.
 

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I owned both as AFs, it's a tie for me on looks alone, but disposition emilia wins. However I knew someone that had 3 boehmei females and all were docile as H chilensis! I should have bought one.
That laid back?! Mad, I wish mine was that way inclined... unfortunately not, but it is what it is. I agree though that bohemi is right up there among brachys, emilia just wins out for me but its splitting hairs honestly. I personally put albiceps up there too but definitely not for temperament... at least my bohemi is predicable...
 

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That laid back?! Mad, I wish mine was that way inclined... unfortunately not, but it is what it is. I agree though that bohemi is right up there among brachys, emilia just wins out for me but its splitting hairs honestly. I personally put albiceps up there too but definitely not for temperament... at least my bohemi is predicable...
I personally think the boehmei looks more strikingly colorful that the emilia, but then again I've only ever seen pictures of either of them.
 

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I personally think the boehmei looks more strikingly colorful that the emilia, but then again I've only ever seen pictures of either of them.
Aye, they're grand looking (particularly post molt). It's all personal preference at the end of the day, all brachys are dope spiders :)
 

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Aye, they're grand looking (particularly post molt). It's all personal preference at the end of the day, all brachys are dope spiders :)
Indeed they are. And there's also lots of other great NW T's out there too. I probably won't get most OW T's, and any of the 30 or 40 scorpion species w/ venom strong enough to kill a person (that's according to Google results), any time soon. Just stick with relatively harmless scorpions and NW T's, such as the H. arizonensis and A. geniculata (first ones I intend to get), for the foreseeable future. I mean, I might consider a few OW T's that tend to be less defensive such as the Horned Baboons (both C. darlingi and C. marshalli) and the Socotra Island Blue Baboon (M. balfouri), but the vast majority of OW T's, (such as the P. murinus, H. maculata, S. calceatum and the Poecilotheria genus T's), are completely out of the question for me as a beginner.
 
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Indeed they are. And there's also lots of other great NW T's out there too. I probably won't get any OW T's, and any of the 30 or 40 scorpion species w/ venom strong enough to kill a person (that's according to Google results), any time soon. Just stick with relatively harmless scorpions and NW T's, such as the H. arizonensis and A. geniculata (first ones I intend to get), for the foreseeable future. I mean, I might consider a few OW T's that tend to be less defensive such as the Horned Baboons (both C. darlingi and C. marshalli) and the Socotra Island Blue Baboon (M. balfouri), but the vast majority of OW T's, (such as the P. murinus, H. maculata, S. calceatum and the Poecilotheria genus T's), are completely out of the question for me as a beginner.
Honestly some OW's really aren't that bad at all... or at least, their 'horrible temperaments' are certainly overblown by many online outlets. I'm not really into them so much but that's mainly an aesthetic choice... I just prefer the look of most NW's to most OW's, that's all (Big terrestrial NW's like Phormictopus, Pamphobeteus, Lasiodora, Nhandu etc etc... those are my favorite T's). I have a couple of OW's (such as the C. darlingi and M. balfouri you mentioned), and whilst they can be fast, skittish and defensive during rehousing, they certainly aren't awful to deal with so long as you approach them with care (particularly during rehousing) and stay aware of where they are/what they're doing when its time for maintenance (like one should with NW's too). Just give the spider the respect it warrants as you would any other animal... plus, OW's have the added benefit of having no urticating hairs, a reason why many prefer them! Do I recommend OW's for beginners? No I don't... but they're far from monsters!
 
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Honestly some OW's really aren't that bad at all... or at least, their 'horrible temperaments' are certainly overblown by many online outlets. I'm not really into them so much but that's mainly an aesthetic choice... I just prefer the look of most NW's to most OW's, that's all (Big terrestrial NW's like Phormictopus, Pamphobeteus, Lasiodora, Nhandu etc etc... those are my favorite T's). I have a couple of OW's (such as the C. darlingi and M. balfouri you mentioned), and whilst they can be fast, skittish and defensive during rehousing, they certainly aren't awful to deal with so long as you approach them with care (particularly during rehousing) and stay aware of where they are/what they're doing when its time for maintenance (like one should with NW's too). Just give the spider the respect it warrants as you would any other animal... plus, OW's have the added benefit of having no urticating hairs, a reason why many prefer them! Do I recommend OW's for beginners? No I don't personally... but folk should understand that they're far from monsters!
Yeah the ones I mentioned that I'd take under consideration at the very least are considered more "beginner friendly" OWs by *most* keepers. Obviously individual T personalities can vary, but it seems those species tend to be some of the less defensive OWs as contrasted to the more defensive ones I also listed and stated I would not consider.
 

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Hm, I just watched a vid on YouTube from the "Tarantula Collective" titled "The BEST Tarantula" where he more or less ranked all his fave tarantulas and stated that if he could only have 1 tarantula it would be the GBB. Nevertheless, the Genic is still my top pick, but I definitely think a GBB, or a similar looking tarantula like the D. diamantinensis, will very likely be my 2nd pick. He also mentioned the B. hamorii (and the B. emilia and B. boehmei) as some of his top picks and 1 of those 3 will very likely be my 3rd tarantula. I'm gonna really struggle not to buy more than one T and one scorpion in a year's time so I don't overwhelm myself lol.
 

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Big terrestrial NW's like Phormictopus, Pamphobeteus, Lasiodora, Nhandu etc etc... those are my favorite T's
Word, these are the best spiders. Poecilotheria are pretty high up there too though. And baboons. Oh, heavy webbers can be pretty cool too. Also, I've been getting into some Asian arboreals lately because there are some cool species being imported. Hmm, almost forgot the NW arboreals! Oh and....

Seriously though, the big South American terrestrials usually have real big attitudes, look great, and wreck their food. Really the best. Did you forget Theraphosa, or have you just not kept them yet? Highly recommended, they're intense.

they're far from monsters!
Hmm, some OW spiders can be pretty scary. Seeing their speed, agility, and knowing the potency of their venom can make most people a bit nervous dealing with them. I've never been bit in over a decade, and hope I never am lol.
 
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Word, these are the best spiders. Poecilotheria are pretty high up there too though. And baboons. Oh, heavy webbers can be pretty cool too. Also, I've been getting into some Asian arboreals lately because there are some cool species being imported. Hmm, almost forgot the NW arboreals! Oh and....
I'd looove to keep a Pokie (P. rufilata is one of my favorite looking spiders, defo a bucket list T for sure!) but I'm still working up to them, seeing how I go with my few Psalmopoeus species (going good so far!). I also just don't have much space for new T's atm (my bedroom & storage unit are more or less packed, and I won't house any elsewhere as that's my family's space). That said, I could fit in one more arboreal... it might have to be that rufilata in due time!
Seriously though, the big South American terrestrials usually have real big attitudes, look great, and wreck their food. Really the best. Did you forget Theraphosa, or have you just not kept them yet? Highly recommended, they're intense.
You put it perfectly here; big attitudes, big appetites and the beauty to match their size more often than not. I unfortunately don't keep Theraphosa though I desperately want to (I should've included them on that list regardless)! But yeah, space is lacking for me atm as I said previously and I really can't take on any more big terrestrials right now. I will 100% keep the 'Goliath bird-eaters' in the very near future! As a big NW connoisseur how could I not? :rofl:
Hmm, some OW spiders can be pretty scary. Seeing their speed, agility, and knowing the potency of their venom can make most people a bit nervous dealing with them. I've never been bit in over a decade, and hope I never am lol.
Haha yes true say, I was trying to emphasize that they aren't the evil creatures that some online articles paint them as, but they FOR SURE can be a handful and are NOT to be messed around with (my darlingi has made that very clear to me lol). In my four years with T's I've never been close to a bite either, I hope like yourself that it stays that way.
 

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Word, these are the best spiders. Poecilotheria are pretty high up there too though. And baboons. Oh, heavy webbers can be pretty cool too. Also, I've been getting into some Asian arboreals lately because there are some cool species being imported. Hmm, almost forgot the NW arboreals! Oh and....

Seriously though, the big South American terrestrials usually have real big attitudes, look great, and wreck their food. Really the best. Did you forget Theraphosa, or have you just not kept them yet? Highly recommended, they're intense.


Hmm, some OW spiders can be pretty scary. Seeing their speed, agility, and knowing the potency of their venom can make most people a bit nervous dealing with them. I've never been bit in over a decade, and hope I never am lol.
I'd love a P. metallica and find them to be one of the, if not perhaps the most, gorgeous tarantulas out there. That said, as a beginner I'm steering clear of any Pokies until I at the very least get some more experience under my belt. Maybe a few terrestrial NW T's then a fast moving arboreal NW T like a P. irminia or P. cambridgei before I'd even consider a Pokie of any kind.
 

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I'd looove to keep a Pokie (P. rufilata is one of my favorite looking spiders, defo a bucket list T for sure!) but I'm still working up to them, seeing how I go with my few Psalmopoeus species (going good so far!). I also just don't have much space for new T's atm (my bedroom & storage unit are more or less packed, and I won't house any elsewhere as that's my family's space). That said, I could fit in one more arboreal... it might have to be that rufilata in due time!

You put it perfectly here; big attitudes, big appetites and the beauty to match their size more often than not. I unfortunately don't keep Theraphosa though I desperately want to (I should've included them on that list regardless)! But yeah, space is lacking for me atm as I said previously and I really can't take on any more big terrestrials right now. I will 100% keep the 'Goliath bird-eaters' in the very near future! As a big NW connoisseur how could I not? :rofl:

Haha yes true say, I was trying to emphasize that they aren't the evil creatures that some online articles paint them as, but they FOR SURE can be a handful and are NOT to be messed around with (my darlingi has made that very clear to me lol). In my four years with T's I've never been close to a bite either, I hope like yourself that it stays that way.
Which Psalmopoeus genus T's do you own? I really like the look of the P. irminia, but the P. cambridgei is pretty in it's own way.
 
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