A. Avic won't go on hand

[SuzukiSwift]

I don't know, I think the S. Calceatum I took care of wanted to be held because it came towards me very willingly. But honestly my rose hair seems to welcome any opening of the lid and often will walk over onto my hand and stay until I force her off.

It's possible she goes there for the warmth of your hand.

And I dont think calceatum should be handled under any circumstance haha

 

[Kron]

Yes I know they they don't "enjoy" being handled and I wasn't looking for a pet for handling etc.. I just thought her behavior was a bit odd compared to other tarantulas I've held. I think some of you may be over reacting a bit, I've only attempted it twice since I got her, it's not like I've been constantly prodding at her, I'm not an imbecile.

 

[Beary Strange]

Yes I know they they don't "enjoy" being handled and I wasn't looking for a pet for handling etc.. I just thought her behavior was a bit odd compared to other tarantulas I've held. I think some of you may be over reacting a bit, I've only attempted it twice since I got her, it's not like I've been constantly prodding at her, I'm not an imbecile.

If you understand that, then why did you make this thread? You made a thread specifically asking if there was something unusual about this behavior, even asking "could she just have a weird character?". That indicates to us that you believe this tarantula is weird for not wanting to be held. And people reacted accordingly. Given that the question made our collective mouths drop to the floor, I think the response was pretty calm.

 

[SuzukiSwift]

Don't take it personally ae, there have just been unbelievable stories and threads on this forum about things like this which have really stirred up 'righteous anger' within some of us haha Whenever there are threads about handling it can stir up those feelings again, sometimes when we see threads like this we assume the worst

We don't think you're an imbecile, there have just been real imbeciles in the past that have posted stuff that makes us cringe worrying for the Ts safety, if it seems that we over-react it is just because of this

 

[BobGrill]

Like putting a P.metallica in your mouth? You know what surprises me the most about that is not the fact that they have medically significant venom, but it's more the risk of having your jaw accidentally moving/closing due to a natural muscle reflex and then pretty much biting your own tarantula in half. A $500+ tarantula that is. What a waste of money for a stupid stunt. Sorry to get a bit off-topic, but I just can't seem to get over that one

I don't think S.calceatum CAN be handled in all honesty. How would you even be able to catch the damn thing? You'd probably end up with multiple bites in your hand before you could even get a hold of the spider.

 

[cold blood]

Don't take it personally ae, there have just been unbelievable stories and threads on this forum about things like this which have really stirred up 'righteous anger' within some of us haha Whenever there are threads about handling it can stir up those feelings again, sometimes when we see threads like this we assume the worst

We don't think you're an imbecile, there have just been real imbeciles in the past that have posted stuff that makes us cringe worrying for the Ts safety, if it seems that we over-react it is just because of this

Well put suzukiswift, well put indeed.

 

[Kron]

If you understand that, then why did you make this thread? You made a thread specifically asking if there was something unusual about this behavior, even asking "could she just have a weird character?". That indicates to us that you believe this tarantula is weird for not wanting to be held. And people reacted accordingly. Given that the question made our collective mouths drop to the floor, I think the response was pretty calm.

again It's because her behavior was very different compares to other tarantulas I've held. My question wasn't so much about handling and more about whether a tarantula can learn from experiences and about an avic's character, some people unlike yourself got that.

 

[ratluvr76]

again It's because her behavior was very different compares to other tarantulas I've held. My question wasn't so much about handling and more about whether a tarantula can learn from experiences and about an avic's character, some people unlike yourself got that.

well don't jump down Belle Fury's throat.. I had the same questions she posed in the post you quoted of hers... also, you don't really seem to listen or take advice well from anyone, evidence by the species/pet list in your signature which is expressly against the forum rules. j/s.

 

[Kron]

well don't jump down Belle Fury's throat.. I had the same questions she posed in the post you quoted of hers... also, you don't really seem to listen or take advice well from anyone, evidence by the species/pet list in your signature which is expressly against the forum rules. j/s.

Is it really? I'll change it straight away then, must of missed it. Apologies.

(I made my first one only yesterday so I wasn't quite in the know as to it's purpose)

As for the rest of your comment, you are assuming that I am repelling everyone's comment's of which I'm not. "I had the same questions she posed in the post you quoted of hers" could you expand on that as I am not quite understanding your point?

I simply wanted to know whether it was just an aspect of her character to be extra resistant to handling or whether it was learned from previous experiences. I got the answer to these questions however the attitude was unexpectedly abrasive alongside the general assumption that I've been mistreating her or that I thought that tarantulas "enjoy" being handled which I think just about anyone would know, tarantula owner or not. This is not something that was or is sitting well with me. I understand that many of you may have encountered idiots who play with their tarantula like a toy but I assure you just to put your minds at ease I'm not one of them and I think everyone (including myself) needs to just calm down a bit.

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Also this is not a chat room, all questions have been answered, move on.

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And to Belle Fury, I apologise for coming on so strong, just wanted to be clear. You've helped me loads in the past for which I'm very grateful.

 

[viper69]

But honestly my rose hair seems to welcome any opening of the lid and often will walk over onto my hand and stay until I force her off.

Do you know a prisoner that likes to stay in prison, I don't.

Kron- my Chaco hated the touch of human skin either due to skin, the softness of human flesh or both, who knows. It's not an Avic behavior it's a natural T behavior.


As for holding them- dude do whatever you want, you own it. You want to eat your T go for it, smash it, slingshot it have at it.

You know they don't like it but you do it anyway, will they live SURE, does it mean you SHOULD hold them because you can, NO. It's like beating someone up for fun, will they live, yep, should you do it, nope.

 

[Kron]

Do you know a prisoner that likes to stay in prison, I don't.

Actually there are a lot of prisoners who like to stay in prison, it's called being institutionalized, It's pretty similar to domestication so a great example.

 

[viper69]

Actually there are a lot of prisoners who like to stay in prison, it's called being institutionalized, It's pretty similar to domestication so a great example.

Let me rephrase - do you know anyone that if given the choice to be institutionalized or live a free life outside of prison would choose to be institutionalized? There's always exceptions but most of the human population prefers to live with freedoms hahah. It's not rocket science.


Your use of the word "like" and prisoners is extremely skewed.

Domestication and being institutionalized are not even close regarding the neurophysiological, neurochemical and subsequent neuropsychological changes that occur, not even close.