UK spider ID

Sorry just realised how awful that picture is. I’ll get some better ones later.

Your picture is ok, poeople ask for identication of much worse ones. It is Nuctenea umbratica.

The pic is not very clear but my guess would be Lariniodes sclopetarius, a relatively common orb weaver that is attracted to shiny surfaces (car). The color is variable but your spider seems to have the right pattern. Did you wash it with water after it's bath with break cleaner?

@Patherophis We posted at the same time! So... can you refute my guess ?

@_scorpio_ Nuctenea and Larinioides look very, very similar, so I don't hink it's possible to be sure from your pic

Yes I washed it off straight away, and it resurrected itself about an hour after. It was living under a trim with no visible web of that makes a difference, though it has been maximum 5 degrees C recently.
The reason it caught my eye was it’s fangs. They are quite visible and it was making good use of them when I picked it up. Not a behaviour I have seen in our native spiders.

I would say of the two suggestions it looks more like Nuctenea umbratica with the little dimples on the back. Hour or so and I’ll have some decent pictures.

@boina Abdomen looks very flat to me, and pale patern on carapace seems to be lacking, also it looks overaly quite dark and paterns match better with that of Nuctenea, so I believe this one is Nuctenea. But I agree that Nuctenea/Larinioides can be tricky so maybe better photo @_scorpio_ mentioned would help

Having researched Nuctenea i am sure that is what it is. I have a few better pictures which i will try to upload now.

I vote Nuctenea umbratica too