Xenesthis sp Blue

[Arachne13]

Not sure if this is the correct place to post this but...
I am conducting some research currently on the Xenesthis sp blue and clear information on this particular species appears to be shrouded and difficult to find. I contacted someone in the hobby who has actually found this species in the wild to possibly gain insight into its true origin, however he told me he is not able to tell me where this species is found and has gone in details to explain in a recent video that their location is dangerous and not safe for tourists. I definitely understand the need to protect this species and to protect hobbyists a from attempting to locate them.

My goals is to start a YouTube channel and the mascot for my channel is the Xen blue so so I really hoping to start off my channel with a detailed care guide of this species as there is limited information and few decent care guides on them.
Keeping in mind the potential dangers of the location I do not plan to reveal exactly where they are located, however, having the information myself and the ability to research the climate, weather, and natural environment of the location and provide that information in my video would be so helpful in engaging my audience.
I feel the ability to conduct my own research would make for a much more informative video rather then merely regurgitating second hand information verbatim.
If anyone had any research information on this species I would absolutely love if you would share your sources.
Thanks in advance!

 

[EpicEpic]

Care is same as all other Xenesthis. Especially since it could very well just be a variant of one of the described species.

 

[Arachne13]

I’ve already done a good amount of research on their care and Have actually learned from several reliable sources that the sp blue needs a dryer environment then other Xenesthis species. They are also typically found in a different location in Columbia than other species. They are from a mountain region in Columbia, this is the information I am hoping to find out.

 

[Smotzer]

I’ve already done a good amount of research on their care and Have actually learned from several reliable sources that the sp blue needs a dryer environment then other Xenesthis species. They are also typically found in a different location in Columbia than other species. They are from a mountain region in Columbia, this is the information I am hoping to find out.

What are your reliable sources? Cause as far as I’ve heard they should be kept like other xenethis, and since they aren’t a described species I’d be careful and not believe everything you read or are told as far as locale is concerned.

 

[Arachne13]

A few long time members on arachnoboards, birdspidersch And several experienced keepers in my Tarantula group who have kept several species of the Xenesthis gene for some time. Birdspiderch made a recent video on YouTube and actually went out to Columbia with his crew to document the sp blue in its natural environment.

 

[BassCatPIV]

I understand what you are saying. However, its a totally different animal when keeping a species vs what it does in its natural environment.

 

[EpicEpic]

Trying to mock its natural enviorment doesn't always lead to good.

Much success has been had keeping it like like other xenesthis so I wouldn't go against the grain. Especially considering its likely just locale variation of one of those species.

My intermedia molted yesterday.

I learned 2 things!

1)I thought it couldn't get any leggier....it did

2)I'm going to end up with a ton of unsexed spiders cause molt sexing is NOT a strong suit

 

[Arachne13]

Okay this is awesome. More information is always better! So my question is definitely still applicable as the potential of husbandry advise is only one side of the equation. I definitely understand what you guys are saying in regards to the husbandry being different for captive bred species and will definitely incorporate this into my video however, having more information on the species IMO adds SO much value to a YouTube channel when there are many care videos out there.
For example, I am part of the Tarantula collective group and one of the things many find so compelling is his detailed explanations of The species, their locations, their history and their husbandry. Having the location, informs about the location as well as mentioning everything that has been said here in this forum e.i “mimicking natural environment not necessarily being a better option when raising captive bred specimens”
Is all the more information for a video which will give it a broad spectrum of Collective information. I do appreciate everyone’s input here on the subject and will be sure to incorporate it into my care video. I am hoping to collect as much data as possible on this species species so if anyone could provide some good articles or resources to gather information from I would truly be greatful

 

[Arachnid Addicted]

if anyone could provide some good articles or resources to gather information from I would truly be greatful

There aren't any scientifical articles about this species regarding taxonomy, which means localities (other than the one we know), polychromatism, polymorphism, if this is a described species already, etc. are all still a mistery.

This is a specimen of Xenesthis genus that received "blue" as a "nickname", instead of a locale. What we know about them, is what hobbysts know about them.

That said, I agree with others here, keep them like you keep other Xenethis.

 

[viper69]

There aren't any scientifical articles about this species regarding taxonomy, which means localities (other than the one we know), polychromatism, polymorphism, if this is a described species already, etc. are all still a mistery.

This is a specimen of Xenesthis genus that received "blue" as a "nickname", instead of a locale. What we know about them, is what hobbysts know about them.

That said, I agree with others here, keep them like you keep other Xenethis.

Agreed--There are so many genera with gorgeous specimens in the hobby, and science hasn't even described them yet in relevant detail.

 

[Crazyarachnoguy]

Yup, I Have 3 sp blue and 4 immanis, I care for them all the same way. There are care sheets out there, just need to search for them. I’ve never heard of sp blue needing a dryer climate than the immanis species.

 

[Tolyaba]

Im not a pro or anything but my X. blue dont like wet substrate. So i guess keeping them with lower humidity then other x sp. is correct. Also when it was hot over here(30 C) they got completly crazy. Climbing walls at night. They calmed down around 25 C.

 

[Arachnid Addicted]

Agreed--There are so many genera with gorgeous specimens in the hobby, and science hasn't even described them yet in relevant detail.

We should make a list.

 

[Crazyarachnoguy]

I’d also like to add, all 7 xenethsis (sp. blue & immanis) species I own are constantly hovering over their bottle cap(water dish) seeking more water. So that shows me they’re looking for moisture. I can tell you from my experience, they prefer it humid.

Im not a pro or anything but my X. blue dont like wet substrate. So i guess keeping them with lower humidity then other x sp. is correct. Also when it was hot over here(30 C) they got completly crazy. Climbing walls at night. They calmed down around 25 C.

Yes, I wouldn’t want to walk on wet grass either all day. Wet and humid are two different things. Trust me, for this genus, 75-80 humidity is the way to go.

 

[EpicEpic]

I’d also like to add, all 7 xenethsis (sp. blue & immanis) species I own are constantly hovering over their bottle cap(water dish) seeking more water. So that shows me they’re looking for moisture. I can tell you from my experience, they prefer it humid.

Yes, I wouldn’t want to walk on wet grass either all day. Wet and humid are two different things. Trust me, for this genus, 75-80 humidity is the way to go.

With you all the way but please stop with the humidity #s LOL

 

[Arachne13]

Well I will just say I keep my Immanis and Sp blue exactly the same already, they are also slings so I’d keep them moist anyways. I have definitely noticed a trend in my Sp blues digging patterns. She seems to dig deeper into the burrow every time the top layer of sub starts to dry out a bit. I don’t see her in her water dish much and not much roaming Even in the heat.

Yup, I Have 3 sp blue and 4 immanis, I care for them all the same way. There are care sheets out there, just need to search for them. I’ve never heard of sp blue needing a dryer climate than the immanis species.

I have stated already I’ve actually done a lot of research, I am searching for any additional information (not husbandry related) I can’t imagine creating a YouTube video to tell people how to take care of an animal without having done a lot of research and having a good amount of experience as well. but some people actually do that, crazy. Definitely not me! I made this thread so I could gather as much information on this species as possible, not just regurgitated information from careguides. I don’t just want to make a YouTube video that gives some general advise. I’d like it to be engaging, informative and offer a broad range of facts, history, region, care and interesting attributes like “ Commensalism between Xenesthis immanis and microhylid frogs” for instance.

 

[Crazyarachnoguy]

They are a very awesome genus and the immanis is super sick in that fact that it can share it’s living space with a frog and not eat it, although there are a ton of care sheets online right now. The tarantula hobby is bigger than you’d expect, you can probably find a care sheet on every species.

Looking at 5-10 different care sheets should give you enough information to post a video about care. Although I’d suggest actually caring for a species before trying to upload a video on their care.

 

[Arachnid Addicted]

“ Commensalism between Xenesthis immanis and microhylid frogs”

There are two infos here that might be helpful:

Pamphobeteus sp. and the frog, misid note.

I believe it was 2009/2010 when I first heard that a tarantula could interact with a frog without eat, or injure it. Got really curious about and found this article about X. immanis interacting with a frog (C. ventrimaculata). Advance 4 years, I was talking with Lee Beck (at that time, I still...

arachnoboards.com

 

[Arachne13]

Looking at 5-10 different care sheets should give you enough information to post a video about care. Although I’d suggest actually caring for a species before trying to upload a video on their care.

I have both Sp blue and Immanis that I have been caring for about 6 months so far

 

[EpicEpic]

They are a very awesome genus and the immanis is super sick in that fact that it can share it’s living space with a frog and not eat it, although there are a ton of care sheets online right now. The tarantula hobby is bigger than you’d expect, you can probably find a care sheet on every species.

Looking at 5-10 different care sheets should give you enough information to post a video about care. Although I’d suggest actually caring for a species before trying to upload a video on their care.

Every species?????? Not even close. You can barely find an inkling of good info on way too many Genus', let alone species!