Which tarantula species are the most advanced???

[Wolf135]

I always hear people talk about the ones beginners should get, but I have yet to hear about the T species beginners should avoid.

 

[Vulash]

I've heard rumors of Psalmo communities using bronze tools, but haven't seen any real evidence.

Even if that were true though it would only put them in second because I have personally witnessed A. Geniculata Ts using gunpowder and steam technology

 

[coolnweird]

Tom Moran has a good podcast on this topic! Generally, I think H. macs, S. cals, and pokies are considered to be more advanced, along with old world Asian species. Personally, I think all old worlds should be considered advanced, but I understand that's not everyone's opinion or experience (looking at you Australia)

 

[Poonjab]

Notuchem. Noseaem

 

[Tarantulafeets]

My LP has figured out how to drink using straws, she's above dipping her fangs into water.

 

[thedragonslapper]

Tom Moran has a good podcast on this topic! Generally, I think H. macs, S. cals, and pokies are considered to be more advanced, along with old world Asian species. Personally, I think all old worlds should be considered advanced, but I understand that's not everyone's opinion or experience (looking at you Australia)

Agreed. Anything dangerously hot like those, although the P regalis I had years ago was pretty chill and I never felt nervous whenever I needed to work in her enclosure.

 

[l4nsky]

When I think advanced, I don't necessarily think potent venom or speed. I think more along the lines of level of husbandry involved. I mean Poecilotheria ssp COULD be considered an advanced species from a potential harm perspective, but husbandry wise they're practically bulletproof and one of the easiest genus to keep and raise IMO.

When I think advanced, I think about species that require husbandry outside of the norm and can be quite challenging to raise in captivity. Based on this criteria, I would say Megaphobema mesomelas, Typochlaena ssp, and Phrixotrichus ssp are all what I would consider advanced species.

 

[The Grym Reaper]

Megaphobema mesomelas

Unless you get WC specimens then there's absolutely nothing challenging about keeping this species at all

 

[l4nsky]

Unless you get WC specimens then there's absolutely nothing challenging about keeping this species at all

So I've heard, but it's hard enough to find specimens, much less CBB (atleast here in the States).

 

[coolnweird]

When I think advanced, I don't necessarily think potent venom or speed. I think more along the lines of level of husbandry involved. I mean Poecilotheria ssp COULD be considered an advanced species from a potential harm perspective, but husbandry wise they're practically bulletproof and one of the easiest genus to keep and raise IMO.

When I think advanced, I think about species that require husbandry outside of the norm and can be quite challenging to raise in captivity. Based on this criteria, I would say Megaphobema mesomelas, Typochlaena ssp, and Phrixotrichus ssp are all what I would consider advanced species.

This is an excellent way of thinking about it!

 

[spideyspinneret78]

I'm going to say that some of the Asian arboreal species are most advanced, in terms of both husbandry and venom potency. L. violaceopes is an example. Their husbandry is more involved, and they tend to be (in terms of tarantulas) more sensitive and fragile than some other species. I would also add newer species in the hobby and/or those whose husbandry requirements still aren't completely understood. T. seladonia, P. vulpinus, etc. are examples.

 

[Sergeimosin]

I mean, the obvious ones would be the Theraphosa genus (Blondi in particular) due to the moisture dependency, and despite their size and weight, mine tend to climb on the lid at night, so it's been critically important to make sure the enclosure has enough substrate to prevent a catastrophic fall while still giving them enough space for comfort. It's honestly hard to point to any one particular species as being difficult to keep since most tend to be extremely hardy as long as basic care requirements are observed.

 

[looseyfur]

fast and potent venom, or difficult environmental conditions to keep consistent, or a combination of both.

 

[Wolf135]

fast and potent venom, or difficult environmental conditions to keep consistent, or a combination of both.

I was thinking a combination of all.

 

[viper69]

I always hear people talk about the ones beginners should get, but I have yet to hear about the T species beginners should avoid.

Really?? You haven’t been reading this forum much.

 

[Vulash]

I was thinking a combination of all.

I think those things really need to be separated though. I'm newer but I'm not as worried about the fast part. I have a good rehousing method down. It's not infallible, but I actually like fast Ts. I also have 2 cats, a dog, a 2-year-old, and an infant on the way. Given all of that and the fact that I'm new I consider the really potent and defensive Ts to be more advanced than I want to take on. Someone else may not mind the potency but can't handle the speed. Others may not have the time or desire to research to deal with advanced husbandry requirements.

We should really create rating systems for different species and turn it into a card game like MTG and make billions. My X. Immanis "Balthazar the Forlorn" has an 8 strength, 10 on feeding response, 6 husbandry requirements, 2 on bite attack, and 6 speed. I summon him with my three Dubia roaches and attack.

On an unrelated note, I'll be using purple in the future anytime I use Vulash's patented dry sense of humor and/or sarcasm.

 

[Matt Man]

H. mac, S. calceatum, Poecilotheria for speed and venom potency. Put OBTs just under that

Theraphosa for higher husbandry reqs

 

[Liquifin]

Advance species is something that is very objective/subjective and people will have different takes on that. I'm not too sure what I'll consider as advance in the sense of keeping something in captivity. Maybe something with an unpredictable movement or behavior? Or maybe something that requires a certain husbandry condition? Who knows? I guess people will have different results and answers for what makes them a true advance species.

 

[vicareux]

When i think of "most advanced", i think of "hardest to keep alive"
In that regard, i guess T seladonia or Theraphosinae sp panama, and spiders like those, have that reputation as far as im aware.

 

[Butterbean83]

Cyriopagus Hainanum has got to be up there from a few accounts of its potential venom toxicity