What's a Good Baboon tarantula to start with? Or New World

Ignia · Aug 11, 2017

I would love a baboon tarantula. But I.Mira was a pet hole and P. Lugardi was a unpredeictible. So what species is good? I found a C. Marshalli.
But maybe a new world? Are there any bald species or one that doesn't use the hairs as much.

MissHarlen · Aug 11, 2017

Ignia said:
I would love a baboon tarantula. But I.Mira was a pet hole and P. Lugardi was a unpredeictible. So what species is good? I found a C. Marshalli.
But maybe a new world? Are there any bald species or one that doesn't use the hairs as much.

I've heard M. balfouri is a good starter

miss moxie · Aug 11, 2017

If you have zero experience keeping tarantulas then no there is no good baboon or OW species to start with. There are plenty of good NW Ts to start with, however.

Euatlus sp. "red" don't commonly flick hairs.

Chris LXXIX · Aug 11, 2017

Ignia said:
I would love a baboon tarantula. But I.Mira was a pet hole and P. Lugardi was a unpredeictible. So what species is good? I found a C. Marshalli.
But maybe a new world? Are there any bald species or one that doesn't use the hairs as much.

Why P.lugardi "was a unpredeictible" (unpredictable, you mean, btw?)

?

If yes, well, all T's are unpredictable at the end.

"But maybe a new world?" Ah ah no offence but seems that you are a bit uncertain

My opinion is that Ceratogyrus marshalli isn't only one of the best 'baboon' out there (in general) but IMO on the Top 10 of the best looking Theraphosidae (despite NW, OW).

As a 'Pro' that never harmed no one, really cheap as well (at least here in Europe).

However, if you don't have a bit of experience, it's better to look for something else.

KezyGLA · Aug 11, 2017

There is no starter species when it comes to baboons.

All Theraphosidae are unpredictable. Almost all Harpactirinae are lightning fast and are easily spooked and will become defensive. All have potent venom.

If you get one, you may quickly end up regretting it. But at the end of the day it is your choice. Just make sure you make it a wise one.

Edit: If this is going to be your first T then I would start with NW to get you used to the basics. But if you must get an African species then I would suggest Augacephalus ezendami.

Walker253 · Aug 11, 2017

Ceratogyrus in my opinion is the best starter old world genus to start with. C darlingi and C marshalli are relatively cheap, super hardy and will not overwhelm you. The horns are awesome.
If you keep the soil deep, they like to hang out near the entrance. If you keep the soil shallow, they web quite nicely.

Walker253 · Aug 11, 2017

P lugardi isn't unpredictable. It hides and does it very well.

KezyGLA · Aug 11, 2017

Pterinochilus lugardi is unpredictable.

KezyGLA · Aug 11, 2017

http://arachnoboards.com/threads/what-are-p-lugardi-slings-like.297101/#post-2668477

.. I had a feeling I had been repeating myself lately.

OP, please try and keep your questions of similar/same topic in the one thread.

Walker253 · Aug 11, 2017

KezyGLA said:
Pterinochilus lugardi is unpredictable.

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Bro, that looks pretty predictable to me. Most baboons placed on a pant leg will drop the threat pose lol. A Pterinochilus lugardi is a pet hole, period. To the OP, if you take a baboon out of the container and mess with it, the picture above is what you'll generally see right before it bites you. Leave them in the container and keep you hands out.
@KezyGLA, disagree all you want. Your photo proves my point in a way. I could go downstairs right now and take pics of my P lugardi container. It's a really nice hole. That's all I ever see. You'll never see mine on my pant leg though.

KezyGLA · Aug 11, 2017

Walker253 said:
Bro, that looks pretty predictable to me. Most baboons placed on a pant leg will drop the threat pose lol. A Pterinochilus lugardi is a pet hole, period. To the OP, if you take a baboon out of the container and mess with it, the picture above is what you'll generally see right before it bites you. Leave them in the container and keep you hands out.
@KezyGLA, disagree all you want. Your photo proves my point in a way. I could go downstairs right now and take pics of my P lugardi container. It's a really nice hole. That's all I ever see. You'll never see mine on my pant leg though.

You think I placed it there?

I disagreed because you are giving a 15 year old with little to no experience the idea that you can predict what a potentially dangerous species will do at any given moment.

Walker253 · Aug 11, 2017

Depends how you want to read it I guess.

Chris LXXIX · Aug 11, 2017

KezyGLA said:
You think I placed it there?

I disagreed because you are giving a 15 year old with little to no experience the idea that you can predict what a potentially dangerous species will do at any given moment.

I think that old good Walker253 was only talking in general about his experience with P.lugardi, my friend, in good faith.

Hands down, Ignia is a 15 years guy, so your concern is logical.

Being completely honest, I don't like too much the idea that, a young guy, can put (basically) his/her parents (since is a minor) into such position/situation (for that they are the ones responsible).

Just like those that "Daddy, I wanna a tattoo... PLEAZ!" at 13/14 and their Dad/Mom needs to sign an helluva of stuff at the 'ink shop'.

Mah, I say

KezyGLA · Aug 11, 2017

I wasn't meaning to be conflictive. I just disagree as instinctive animals can't be predicted. No matter how much experience you have with any given species, they have the ability to surprise you, even when your guard is up. And this therefore making them unpredictable.

We know how true the term 'each individual varies' is.

Sure, yours may until this moment be a pet hole. But maybe one day you pop the lid and it darts out of the hole and runs onto your lap (like what happened in the photo above).

Yes everyone has their experiences, but its best not to underestimate.

Chris LXXIX · Aug 11, 2017

KezyGLA said:
I wasn't meaning to be conflictive.

Never thought you was, my friend.

I just simply use whatever comment I can find for deliver my 'Extreme Wisdom'. Incredibly, for free

CEC · Aug 11, 2017

15? Get NWs till 18. That way if you take a trip to the hospital from an OW bite, your to blame not anyone else... I'm not saying a 15 year old isn't as responsible or more responsible than some adults, that's just the way our laws work, unfortunately.

Venom1080 · Aug 11, 2017

Generally, Ceratogyrus are pretty good. Hyper defensive still, but they stay pretty small.

miss moxie · Aug 11, 2017

KezyGLA said:
http://arachnoboards.com/threads/what-are-p-lugardi-slings-like.297101/#post-2668477

.. I had a feeling I had been repeating myself lately.

OP, please try and keep your questions of similar/same topic in the one thread.

OP keeps posting threads about getting an OW, what a certain OW is like, etc. and on those threads people keep gently telling them "You're not ready for an OW, don't get an OW please." and yet they keep posting more threads "So which baboon should I start with?" and expecting different results perhaps?

I feel like that's the definition to some word, can't remember which......repeating the same action and expecting different results.

Venom1080 · Aug 11, 2017

miss moxie said:
I feel like that's the definition to some word, can't remember which......repeating the same action and expecting different results.

Insanity. Or was that supposed to be rhetorical?

miss moxie · Aug 11, 2017

Venom1080 said:
Insanity. Or was that supposed to be rhetorical?

The latter, aha. But good on you for picking up the reference!

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