What Roach?

GAD

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I did a search and couldnt find anything...I need a roach that cant fly or climb plastic...But I dont want him to burrow eather what roach would that be...The Blatta cant climb glass but my roach house is plastic..any ideas??
 

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Is the plastic not smooth? Generally speaking, glass and plastic are equally adequate at keeping the non climbers in. If your container is made of some kind of rough plastic, then you probably won't be able to find a roach that will stay in............

Perhaps a better way to view the "non glass climbers" is to think of them as "non smooth surface climbers". Even some wood (if sanded finely enough) would keep them in.
As long as there are no blemishes on the surface for their feet to grip, they won't be able to climb.
 
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GAD

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Its a Rubbermade toate (however thats spelled) It seems rough compaired to some plastics...but i dunno...
 

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Good question.

http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=58550

Blaptica dubias do not climb glass, do not climb exo terra (plastic) containers, and do not climb the side of rubbermaid containers. Every once in a while the young will make a try but they are not quick. They will burrow somewhat but not in any major way.

Blaberus fusca does not really climb at all. I have not had them long but they seem not to burrow.

Blaberus giganteus do not climb, slower then fusca but seem to like ot dig.

I do not find any problems with Nauphoeta cinerea. They do climb and do glide (more or less), I do not have a problem with escapes, they do not live long outside the colony. I like them because they can feed everything,the come in a million sizes. They do climb for the aboreals

I can feed my dartfrogs, slings, and adults out of the same box. They also breed like you would not beleive. They keep up with the frogs, 80-120 prey items a day.

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Most Rubbermaid totes are just fine for keeping non climbers in. Unless the inside is badly scratched, I'd say use it. You might want to throw a few in there at first, and give em a day or so just to see if they can get out, but I don't think you'll have a problem with a tote.
 

GAD

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TheDarkFinder said:
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=58550

Blaptica dubias do not climb glass, do not climb exo terra (plastic) containers, and do not climb the side of rubbermaid containers. Every once in a while the young will make a try but they are not quick. They will burrow somewhat but not in any major way.

Blaberus fusca does not really climb at all. I have not had them long but they seem not to burrow.

Blaberus giganteus do not climb, slower then fusca but seem to like ot dig.

I do not find any problems with Nauphoeta cinerea. They do climb and do glide (more or less), I do not have a problem with escapes, they do not live long outside the colony. I like them because they can feed everything,the come in a million sizes. They do climb for the aboreals

I can feed my dartfrogs, slings, and adults out of the same box. They also breed like you would not beleive. They keep up with the frogs, 80-120 prey items a day.

Thedarkfinder
Yea well Blaptica dubias Burrow I read and I dont want one that burrows!.!.
Thats why I asked in my NEW thread what roach is a non climber and non burrow???
Thanks you 2
 

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Blatta lateralis don't climb or burrow and breed super fast.
I believe males can fly but I haven't seen them attempt to use their wings and from what I've read it's very rare for them to fly. I've read that they may fly at night if there are many males in the tub, which isn't an issue if you have a lid on the container.
 

GAD

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Dom said:
Blatta lateralis don't climb or burrow and breed super fast.
I believe males can fly but I haven't seen them attempt to use their wings and from what I've read it's very rare for them to fly. I've read that they may fly at night if there are many males in the tub, which isn't an issue if you have a lid on the container.
ok sweet I will got read up on those lil buggers..thank you
 

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If I can hijack this topic for a post or two...

I'm thinking about breeding one of the larger roaches, and I found a UK dealer who sells packs of mixed instars. The problem is, the only large roaches he currently has are Eublaberus distanti, discoids, and a blaberus hybrid. He can supply dubias by the end of January, but I don't want to buy a few newly-bred nymphs at the same price as larger nymphs/adults. I can also buy dubias elsewhere, but only at much higher prices.
The hybrid's automatically out, and distantis are larger than discoids. However, any possible smells of distantis counts against them (by possible, I mean: I can't find much info on them).
Any opinions?
 

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czalzsmith said:
Most Rubbermaid totes are just fine for keeping non climbers in.
Most large Rubbermaid totes do have enough texture on them to let nonclimbers make their way up, particularly the babies. Crickets can climb up the sides as well. You have to make sure you feel the inside of the tote if it's one of the large solid-colored ones. There's a slick plastic kind and then a very slightly rough kind. You want to go for the slick plastic kind.
 

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xelda said:
Most large Rubbermaid totes do have enough texture on them to let nonclimbers make their way up, particularly the babies. Crickets can climb up the sides as well. You have to make sure you feel the inside of the tote if it's one of the large solid-colored ones. There's a slick plastic kind and then a very slightly rough kind. You want to go for the slick plastic kind.
Thanks for the clarification. I really didn't know there were 2 kinds. :)
 

John J Starr Jr

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Vermis said:
If I can hijack this topic for a post or two...

I'm thinking about breeding one of the larger roaches, and I found a UK dealer who sells packs of mixed instars. The problem is, the only large roaches he currently has are Eublaberus distanti, discoids, and a blaberus hybrid. He can supply dubias by the end of January, but I don't want to buy a few newly-bred nymphs at the same price as larger nymphs/adults. I can also buy dubias elsewhere, but only at much higher prices.
The hybrid's automatically out, and distantis are larger than discoids. However, any possible smells of distantis counts against them (by possible, I mean: I can't find much info on them).
Any opinions?
All of my Blaberus species including discoidalis do have a very very low odor. That odor is what I would describe as sort of a low musky type of odor. As long as you keep your cages reasonably clean it is barely noticeable. That means NOT_A_LAYER of roach droppings covering the cage bottom...

Blaberus discoidalis
Blaberus parabolicus
Blaberus craniifer
Blaberus fusca

My Blaptica dubia seem to have a very very low odor and slightly lower than that of the Blaberus species. The Blaptica dubia are a very good choice to start with.

I have 25 Eublaberus distanti nymphs in a 2.5 gallon aquarium until I decide whether I want to aquire a colony of them or not. Yep, that is a small size cage for them since they are getting much larger these days. They seem to have a low odor but it is sharper and a bit stronger than that of the Blaberus species.

From all 6 species of roaches that I have on hand a 30 gallon aquarium with 3000 crickets blows the doors off of any smells period. Crickets have a rank, filthy, dirty, discusting, and putrid odor. Bar none for the odor, I would much rather have 10,000 adult roaches and many many nymphs over 3000 crickets any day.

If I were to rank my personal favorites for animal in order of my most favorite being listed first then...

1. Blaberus parabolicus
2. Blaberus craniifer
3. Blaberus fusca
4. Blaptica dubia
5. Blaberus discoidalis
6. Eublaberus distanti

In the order of low odor where the first in the list has the lowest odor...

1. Blaptica dubia
2. Blaberus parabolicus
3. Blaberus fusca
4. Blaberus craniifer
5. Blaberus discoidalis
6. Eublaberus distanti

John J Starr Jr
 
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