What New World tarantula is similar to Baboons?

[Ignia]

I am a huge baboon tarantula fan and would love to have a king baboon one day however I am just starting out. So I am looking for a beginner new world (or baboon if possible) that is similar to a baboon tarantula. Are there any out there? Or should I just do a generic beginner species like G. Rosea??

 

[KezyGLA]

Its a tough ask, my friend. There will be no NW species that resembles an African species I'm afraid.

I would advise you to start with one of the beginner species. But at the end of the day it is up to you. But you need to study the species you are going for inside out. Be it Baboon or NW

 

[miss moxie]

The most important thing for anyone beginning to keep Ts is to do a lot of research. Don't be afraid to ask questions around here. We'd rather answer the same question 20 times than see a T being cared for improperly simply out of not knowing any better. This is a good website to look through and read.

That said, baboons are pretty unique. What is it about baboon Ts that you enjoy so much? Perhaps we can offer some suggestions.

 

[Devin B]

You could narrow down your search by finding out what traits you are looking for. For example are you looking for a T that webs a lot or a good display tarantula or a great eater, ect.

Honestly I wouldnt go for a G. Rosea unless you really want one. I've been told that they are basically pet rocks as they dont do much and go on hunger strikes easily, that is just my opinion however.

 

[14pokies]

Look into the Genus Ephebopus... Not the best Genus for a beginner but IMO if that same keeper was looking at getting a A.geniculata.. Well.. It's a six of one and half dozen of the other kind of situation..

Do a ton of research before you decide though.. While doing so you may even find a tarantula that you absolutely love that would fall into the "beginner" category..

*Edit* I misread.. You said generic not genic..

 

[miss moxie]

*Edit* I misread..

uhhh...didn't someone around here tell you that you had terrible eyesight? Who was that... Must have been someone really astute. Maybe even brilliant.

 

[14pokies]

uhhh...didn't someone around here tell you that you had terrible eyesight? Who was that... Must have been someone really astute. Maybe even brilliant.

I remember no such thing.. Back in your cage.. Back !

 

[GreyPsyche]

I don't think Ephebopus fits what the OP wants as they're not kept as dry as most baboons. I think a GBB would fit the OP well as they're fairly fast and skittish, they web a lot and they're great display Ts. They don't burrow much though but I think they're similar to an OBT in a way. I think it'd be a good introduction to collecting baboon species one day.

Good luck!

 

[14pokies]

I don't think Ephebopus fits what the OP wants as they're not kept as dry as most baboons. I think a GBB would fit the OP well as they're fairly fast and skittish, they web a lot and they're great display Ts. They don't burrow much though but I think they're similar to an OBT in a way. I think it'd be a good introduction to collecting baboon species one day.

Good luck!

I'm not the OP so I can only postulate.. Same as you ...

However I mentioned Ephebopus because they, like African "Baboon" species don't kick urticating hairs from there abdomen. Chelicerae yes but atleast the OP doesn't have to look at that NW T bald patch on it's. They all burrow like crazy and murinus will web like mad.. uatuman and rufescens also look baboonish being primarily rusty red..

BTW not all baboon species like it dry..

Infact even my P.muts do better in barely moistened soil.. They dig extremely deep tunnels searching for slighly damp and cool earth in the wild.. My H.macs prefer a good rain once in awhile as well..

Ephebopus also act kind of baboonish.. They are allways digging, making multiple tunnels, entrances, exits and heaping substrate hear and there.. As with baboons they are skittish and can be pretty defensive..

GBB is a great T don't get me wrong but it's no baboon.. Not even close...

 

[Draketeeth]

Honestly I wouldnt go for a G. Rosea unless you really want one. I've been told that they are basically pet rocks as they dont do much and go on hunger strikes easily, that is just my opinion however.

Agree with the above. Wait and do research, then get something you will like better. I'm so glad I waited and really thought about my options before buying a first tarantula which was something I wanted instead of what was just there and readily available. I'd honestly probably never have gone for another tarantula if my first was a rosie.

 

[Rittdk01]

I have 27 tarantulas and started with a pink toe and Rosie. There is nothing more boring about my two Rosie s than any of my other two dozen tarantulas. I love my rosehairs and see nothing wrong with one as a first.

 

[mconnachan]

Agree with the above. Wait and do research, then get something you will like better. I'm so glad I waited and really thought about my options before buying a first tarantula which was something I wanted instead of what was just there and readily available. I'd honestly probably never have gone for another tarantula if my first was a rosie.

There are hundreds of stunning NW sp. out there - your money, your choice, if this is your first start off with something that's a little forgiving husbandry wise, then once you've got the care down to a T, then you can choose something more advanced - then repeat, it's not a race, there's always going to be loads of spectacular species for you to acquire once you've got the husbandry up to par. Good luck and the world is your oyster, my particular recommendation would be a Brachypelma sp.

 

[boina]

If you'd actually love a baboon I wouldn't start with a rosie... they are about as far from a baboon as you can get in most aspects. Tell us what makes baboons so fascinating for you and you will likely have dozens of suggestions thrown at you of tarantulas with that trait that won't put you in hospital if things go wrong. We are a bunch of manic enablers around here that love to get other people into this hobby.

 

[Andrea82]

First genus that popped up in my head was Ephebopus, because of burrowing and temperament. Not a good starter genus though because they need a bit more in terms of fine tuning their humidity. And their temperament.
Second was Phormictopus. Mean as hell, but rather hardy, some burrow, some don't. Again not the ideal starter.

I think it helps to at least get two species, if not more, to work your way up to OW. But that is what worked for me personally. You just can't get a good grasp on speed and defensiveness if you have never seen it irl.

Browse the net, there are far more genera that are suitable for starters then a 'rosie'

 

[chrispetrie]

why not just get a sling? its a bit less deadly and you can learn about it as it grows just remember temperments change from molt to molt so never trust a baboon! my togo starburst was an angel it molted now its an asshole lol still beautiful spider though, but yeah i think a sling would be less dangerous in getting experience with baboons, just my opinion though.

i think the whole beginner tarantula advanced tarantula deal is a whole load of garbage, what it really boils down to is how much research you do before getting certain species and how careful you are with transfers and avoiding getting bitten or letting the spider escape. if you feel you can read up about a baboon, n watch some youtube guides then your pretty much ready for one. if your not 100% confident just get a sling.

i got a togo starburst from a petshop it was in the wrong type of enclosure and ill treated so i felt bad for it, being totally against owning a baboon due to what i hear about old worlds and the fact i didnt even know it was a baboon till i got it home and read up about it, i got em into its enclosure SAFELY. used ye old bath tub trick with a pantbrush, it went into its enclosure gracefully no threats , the problem persisted for me when i had to rehouse em due to some mould building up at the bottom of the enclosure (bad ventilation), it was very fast and didnt want to budge nearly escaped the bathtub but i had a catch cup handy, got em gracefully into its new enclosure from there .

so me having no experience with a baboon OR an adult tarantula for that matter, as i have only raised spiders from slings, i had no problem whatsoever, basically what i am saying is just be prepared when doing transfers, dont put yourself at risk from getting bit and dont give them a chance to bolt where you cannot find them (ie transfers in the bathtub) you can own a baboon just do your research before you buy one

 

[Ignia]

If you'd actually love a baboon I wouldn't start with a rosie... they are about as far from a baboon as you can get in most aspects. Tell us what makes baboons so fascinating for you and you will likely have dozens of suggestions thrown at you of tarantulas with that trait that won't put you in hospital if things go wrong. We are a bunch of manic enablers around here that love to get other people into this hobby.

Baboons fascinate me and tarantula hair is not a thing I'd want to deal with. Looking for aggression to help prep for a baboon. and the aggression and burrows and webbed burrows fascinate me and the hardiness. If I started with a sling king baboon would that be a good idea?? King baboons were always my favorites. Or a Monocentropus balfouri sling.

 

[miss moxie]

I'm going to suggest Ephebopus as well. They're not identical to baboons but they have decent similarities and venom that is much more mild in comparison.

 

[Ignia]

. Eurcratosclus Pachypus, (Stout Leg Baboon)
2. Heterothele villosella, (Tanzanian Chestnut)
3. Idiothele mira, (Blue Foot Baboon)
4. Pterinochilus chordatus, (Kilimanjaro Baboon)
5. Pterinochilus lugardi, (Ft. Hall Baboon

are these ok as some dude said to start with a sling. Is he right and off to study the tarantulas people are talking about here

 

[KezyGLA]

1. Extremely difficult to find slings of this species (However it is probably the best starter baboon sp)
2. Lightning fast (tricky to work with) prone to bolt. They grow fast and dont get a good size. Males dont live long at all.
3. Great species, another great starter baboon. Forgiving. Doesnt grow large but is a complete pet hole.
4. Evil
5. Even more evil.

If you want a starter baboon spiderling, go with Idiothele or maybe Ceratogyrus meridionalis if possible.

 

[Walker253]

I am a huge baboon tarantula fan and would love to have a king baboon one day however I am just starting out. So I am looking for a beginner new world (or baboon if possible) that is similar to a baboon tarantula. Are there any out there? Or should I just do a generic beginner species like G. Rosea??

You might look at a Ephebopus murinus. Maybe as close as you'll come in how it may act.